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Because the mind in question exists outside of time.
God cannot be both omnipresent and only exist outside of time. And God does change his mind more than once in the Bible, so clearly that God at least exists within the temporal universe.
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Maybe it changed its mind or maybe it drip feeds the laws over time since it knows humans could misinterpret laws for things that do not exist yet. (disclaimer: completely agnostic)
or give laws that are simple to articulate, but cover lots of future scenarios via precedent and emergent behavior. the golden rule has held up pretty well (in terms of being applicable, not in terms of being adhered to.)
Thou Shalt Not Own Other Human Beings, Nor Treat Them As Property.
My university had an elevator with a special three-button keypress that took you to a dark sub-basement full of asbestos warnings and terrifyingly dark that wasn't listed on the display.
When you did this, did the floor indicator show anything different?
And where (what country) was this?
Slightly off-topic, but I'd definitely recommend Colson Whitehead's _The Intuitionist_[1] for anyone interested in the intersection of elevators and speculative mysteries. Never thought I'd get the chance to post this to an HN thread... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Intuitionist
Related, Elevator Saga. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27487111 A game where you program the logic of elevators to move people around efficiently. Surprisingly complicated.
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Maybe it changed its mind or maybe it drip feeds the laws over time since it knows humans could misinterpret laws for things that do not exist yet. (disclaimer: completely agnostic)
or give laws that are simple to articulate, but cover lots of future scenarios via precedent and emergent behavior. the golden rule has held up pretty well (in terms of being applicable, not in terms of being adhered to.)
I had thought that the Golden Rule was stated explicitly in the New Testament but not in the "Old Testament", or Torah. But that turns out not to be true. (Of course, I was aware that there were some very old statements of it, even from ancient Egypt, predating even Abraham.)
In the New Testament I find Matthew 7:12 and Luke 6:31 cited online. I would also add Matthew 22:36-40 to that, because I think it's simply a more important and more widely referenced quote.
But the Golden Rule is also present, earlier, in what Christians know as Leviticus and Orthodox Jews know as Vaikra, 19:18.
Here are the KJV versions of all of these:
"Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord." Leviticus 19:18
"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." Matthew 7:12 (presumably citing Leviticus earlier)
"And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise." Luke 6:31
And IMO the most important to Christianity, from Matthew 22:36-40:
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
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Generating electricity is equally forbidden. The prohibition is not work, but rather creation. In this case creating electrical energy.
A prohibition on "creation" is over-broad. Any action taken purposefully can be considered an act of creation. That would include choosing to adhere to the law (thus creating a world where there is more compliance with the law) even if that takes the form of deliberately doing nothing. The only way I can think of to completely avoid creating anything would be to remain unconscious the entire time, thus preventing you…
my personal favorite is the Sabbath mode https://elevation.fandom.com/wiki/Sabbath_service_(SHO) not to pick on a specific belief system, but it's quite interesting the lengths people go to follow the letter but not the spirit of things.
In Orthodox Judaism, the letter of the law typically is the spirit of the law. Not a perfect analogy, but think of the talmud as similar to the tax code. There are things that are black, things that are white and things that are gray. If the tax code said there's a 5% sales tax on tangerines, clementines, navel oranges, lemons, and grapefruit, I'm probably not gonna volunteer to pay taxes on my Sumo Citruses, because…
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So my Jewish friends could technically eat a cheese burger, as long as the cheese was placed on the burger after cooking? Would they have to wait till the burger cools down so that it doesn't melt the cheese? (Here I am concerned about carryover heating/cooking being considered cooking by law.) I am endlessly fascinated by religious laws and their implications/consequences.
You would have to find someone who counted the validity of the original law ("Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk" in Exodus https://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0223.htm ) but did not count any later interpretation or fence around it. Please talk to your participants well before you start this experiment; very few people are going to have an equivocal attitude towards it.
I was electrocuted fucking around with an old elevator once. Now I just get on it and travel to my destination. :) A very humbling experience to have happen in front of your peers.
You were electroshocked. It's only electrocution if you die.