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Re: Anonymous gets banned from Google+, creates his own social network

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Post by xekul »

vaksel wrote: post #21
nostromo wrote: post #19

> Didn’t take long to get banned from Google+ our Gmail is also gone... This is a major concern for me and Google+. Who knows what violates their community standards -- and loosing my gmail (and google docs, and analytics and...) because of Google+ is unfathomable. Google+ really needs to separate out its services so that running afoul of the Google+ "community standards" dosn't lead to the death of all your Google s…

the thing to worry about with Google, is that they are notorious for changing the rules and banning people retroactively for things they did in the past. happened to me with my adwords account, ran a campaign just fine...paused it...then 8 months later got my account permanently suspended by a bot for a campaign that's been paused for 8 months. contacting adwords was useless since they just repeat that there is nothi…

I had my five-year-old, $30k/year Adwords account suspended recently, through no fault of my own. I made a few polite phone calls and they were surprisingly helpful; eventually, in about two weeks, my account was reinstated. Although the telephone staff can't unsuspend your account, they can escalate the matter internally so that a human reviews your suspension. It has taken a lot of time, but Google might finally be starting to understand that customer service matters.

Re: Anonymous gets banned from Google+, creates his own social network

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Post by cryos »

The lesson here is the Google is a corporation with a corporate agenda, with an allegiance to share holders and not users. I think this is the 3rd such story I've read in the last week.

The other complaints I have seen are from gaming communities. I can understand anon getting banned as they probably breached TOS by supporting criminal activities. But it hasn't been the case for other instances I have read about.

Anyone who thinks Google+ is a social network designed to improve the world is sorely mistaken. Its purely designed to harvest consumer to increase profit margins. If your data can't be sold to 3rd parties via Googles ad netowrk then you aren't welcome.

Whats the saying? "If they aren't selling you something then you're being sold"? no idea who to attribute that quote to.

Re: Anonymous gets banned from Google+, creates his own social network

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Post by redthrowaway »

michaelchisari wrote: post #5

Or they could support existing open source social networking projects, instead of, once again, reinventing the wheel.

If you read their dev forums it doesn't look like they're trying to make an open facebook, but rather a system with built-in anonymity, encryption, and filesharing. It'd be cool if they could get it off the ground, but they'd have to marshal far more dev time than they've been able to in the past.

Re: Anonymous gets banned from Google+, creates his own social network

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Post by Groxx »

Why the links black, with a black background?

On a more technical front, the link to Anon+ goes to a site[1] which really only has a link to the Anon+ dev forum[2], this is hosted by ZetaBoards. A company in Maryland[3]. And the "anonplus.com" URL is: A) a .com domain, which I believe the US has recently claimed rights over, and B) all the contacts visible from `whois` are in the US.

Yup. Can't be shut down. Won't be silenced.

[1]: http://anonplus.com/ [2]: http://s13.zetaboards.com/anonplus/index/ [3]: http://www.zetaboards.com/contact/

Re: Anonymous gets banned from Google+, creates his own social network

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Post by ThaddeusQuay »

Well, that's all very nice and good and whatnot, except that as soon as such a network comes into existence, one where "anything" is allowed, someone, possibly even the police themselves, will upload child porn, and then the whole thing goes away, along with anyone at the top of its operation. That's the big problem.

You must allow everything, and protection from being shut down by the government must be built in from the start, and you must design in the ability for people to apply complex filtering so as to get as close as possible to the holy grail of "only what I want, when I want it", and the whole thing must be super simple to use, with a very comfortable feel, unlike torrents and traditional p2p, and some level of anonymity must be allowed, as well as the ability to confirm the identities of people who want to be identified.

And that's just for starters. Anyway, I have Anonymous beat by 6 months on this, or at least as far as domain registrations go. Let's see which of us is first to create something of real and lasting value. Finally, my one-man startup not only has competition, but it comes from none other than the most brilliant group of malcontents ever assembled in human history. Woot!

Re: Anonymous gets banned from Google+, creates his own social network

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Post by Groxx »

icebraining wrote: post #27
Darkstar wrote: post #25

This is fatally flawed by virtue of the fact that it's a .com. The US government has already claimed it has jurisdiction over the com TLD. Should a judge agree that means the social network could be shut down just by appropriating the domain. Also, anonymous is supposed to be decentralized whereas this is anything but. I like some of what anonymous does, but I don't trust them at all.

That site isn't the social network, that apparently is only in planning phase. It's just a forum.

`anonplus.com` is presumably the home of "anon+", not the forum, which is hosted on ZetaBoards.com (another .com there too).

Re: Anonymous gets banned from Google+, creates his own social network

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Post by murz »

nostromo wrote: post #19

> Didn’t take long to get banned from Google+ our Gmail is also gone... This is a major concern for me and Google+. Who knows what violates their community standards -- and loosing my gmail (and google docs, and analytics and...) because of Google+ is unfathomable. Google+ really needs to separate out its services so that running afoul of the Google+ "community standards" dosn't lead to the death of all your Google s…

> Who knows what violates their community standards

http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?answer=...

Re: Anonymous gets banned from Google+, creates his own social network

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Post by nvictor »

51Cards wrote: post #24

They didn't create their own social network. They registered a domain, added a development forum, wrote an ethereal sounding warning message about the coming 'future', wrapped it in a goth inspired theme, and posted it to the internet. They are two different things. The "Revision :0.1 Alpha" at the bottom is what makes me smile the most. That said I'm not against them coming up with an open anonymous social network..…

the expect us was their slogan for a while...
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