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Barry Diller: The movie business as before is finished and will never come back

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Re: Barry Diller: The movie business as before is finished and will never come back

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Post by nodesocket »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #133
syntaxing wrote: post #130

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Wait, how does Placer.ai work? Like you need to have some sort of AMC app?

Placer is able to track cell phones that have an app installed that uses their SDK. They currently have their SDK in over 500 mobile apps. The data is anonymized, but it would probably shock people how much information I can get from this system. I just pick a location and I can see how many people walked into that location over any time span in the past 4 years, where they live, how much money they make, where else…

Wow, this seems like incredibly valuable information for traders and hedge funds. There is a well known retail analyst (Mathew Boss) who famously said they take aerial photos of mall parking lots to estimate traffic and sales. This data is even more granular.

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Post by torben-friis »

wolverine876 wrote: post #255

Barry: Call me. I'll show you where you can find great art in movies, an order of magnitude more than what was available before. I'm a big believer in data and not personal anecdotes, but if I can do it, Barry can (and you can). I never imagined so much incredible art existed on video as what I've seen in the last 5+ years on streaming. The standard for what I will watch has risen dramatically - I don't have to compr…

Perhaps it's a bit off topic, but do you mind sharing some recommendations?

I'm always in the lookup for new stuff, but the one thing I think has become worse for me is finding sources of recommendations. The age of old forums is gone and mainstream sites like IMDb are very hit or miss for me.

I'll take both movies/shows, and the places where you discover them :)

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Post by blhack »

jtwaleson wrote: post #183

Ok, here's my problem with the movie theatre industry. There's 100+ years of fantastic historical content and we're not doing anything with it. 99% of what's shown in theaters is new releases. I understand we don't want to "go stale" as a society and that movie producers also need to make a living, but the balance is just way off. I would pay good money to see "the good the bad and the ugly" with my kids in a couple…

Alamo draft house does this as a core part of their business model. They even usually give you souvenirs and have a themed menu around it.

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Post by specialist »

That interview was rough.

TLDR: The studio and distributor's chokehold on movies is dead.

Hallelujah, good riddance, piss off.

For some historical perspective, 99% had a nice episode about movie theaters. The Megaplex! https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/the-megaplex/

TLDR: The movie theater biz has always been in flux, now is no different.

PS- After the dust settles, I'm sure new gatekeepers will arise. Same as it ever was.

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Post by whoooooo123 »

MivLives wrote: post #305
jtwaleson wrote: post #183

Ok, here's my problem with the movie theatre industry. There's 100+ years of fantastic historical content and we're not doing anything with it. 99% of what's shown in theaters is new releases. I understand we don't want to "go stale" as a society and that movie producers also need to make a living, but the balance is just way off. I would pay good money to see "the good the bad and the ugly" with my kids in a couple…

The smaller independent theaters near me tend to do more of this sort of thing. The one near me is doing an entire month of a Samurai movies. Also Month Python and the Holy Grail, and War of the Worlds (2005). All their first run movies tend to be independent ones. Not saying that chains shouldn't rerun old movies, just saying those types of theaters do exist. It's the only way I can truely get a movie theater experi…

London is full of independent cinemas that show a fun mix of new releases and older films. Plus they're usually much nicer theatres than the big chains like Odeon and Vue, and the tickets are usually cheaper too.

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Post by clouddrover »

specialist wrote: post #324

That interview was rough. TLDR: The studio and distributor's chokehold on movies is dead. Hallelujah, good riddance, piss off. For some historical perspective, 99% had a nice episode about movie theaters. The Megaplex! https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/the-megaplex/ TLDR: The movie theater biz has always been in flux, now is no different. PS- After the dust settles, I'm sure new gatekeepers will arise. Same as i…

> The studio's chokehold on movies is dead.

No, the reality is studios are consolidating control over their content. For example, Disney controls distribution and access more than ever before with their Disney+ streaming service. Disney produces the content and directly distributes it to the end user:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney%2B

https://www.disneyplus.com

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Post by nodesocket »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #299
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For kicks can we see home depot and cabelas? If not no worries.

Sure. Here's Home Depot: https://i.imgur.com/bqoV3LI.png Here's Cabela's: https://i.imgur.com/SLsba42.png BTW, I should note that this is showing weekly visits (and the same is true for the AMC chart). Again, this is Jan 2017 through July 4, 2021.

Can you aggregate multiple locations? I am interested in Apple stores.

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Post by moralestapia »

sida wrote: post #281

As a quick tangent, has anyone tried watching movies in VR? If you haven’t, try it. I have been watching stuff in my oculus quest 2 and it is pretty darn awesome. I think this is the future, most definitely. Oculus quest 2 still is not perfect. But I cannot imagine going to the theater with a few more generations of VR. (Oculus quest 5 maybe???)

Ugh, I love watching movies on my 2D screen while talking to other people and having some snacks.

I can't imagine myself (EVER!) changing that experience to one that isolates me and requires me to have a crappy headset squeezing my temples for two hours or so.

Just, no. NOOOOO!

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Post by enchiridion »

jack2222 wrote: post #314
jtwaleson wrote: post #183

Ok, here's my problem with the movie theatre industry. There's 100+ years of fantastic historical content and we're not doing anything with it. 99% of what's shown in theaters is new releases. I understand we don't want to "go stale" as a society and that movie producers also need to make a living, but the balance is just way off. I would pay good money to see "the good the bad and the ugly" with my kids in a couple…

You're completely right and obviously many many people would want to go and see something like the good the bad and the ugly in theatres - probably enough to fill the theatre for a showing or two - but the problem is how would they know it's on? A lot of people look up what movies are on that week, but most people are aware that the big movies are ok a the moment because they're marketed and obviously that marketing…

I'm not too sure about that. I'm also trying to decide if a movie is worth seeing when watching an ad. Clearly the classics are worth seeing, so they would just need to let people know. Is that enough to make up the difference? I'm not sure...

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Post by MeinBlutIstBlau »

rmah wrote: post #319
MeinBlutIstBlau wrote: post #310

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I think this is why I've been struggling with finding good films to watch nowadays. Shows are doing great but movies have been suffering. Take the movie "Nobody" for instance. How the hell that movie got the ratings it did I will never know. Not only is it not good, but it was nothing what it was marketed as. My solution to this is to watch actual films that are made with artistic intent or to see certain things that…

Isn't it said that there are only seven actual stories? That every story is a variation of those seven plots with different names, places, times, etc?

At their root core, sure we could generalize that. But I would say like any art, the expression of the story is what matters. I have a hard time connecting films like The Lives of Others, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Les Innocentes, Star Wars, and Austin Powers as "just the same story." In essence all films are either a comedy or tragedy if you really want to get down to it.
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