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Barry Diller: The movie business as before is finished and will never come back

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Re: Barry Diller: The movie business as before is finished and will never come back

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As a quick tangent, has anyone tried watching movies in VR?

If you haven’t, try it. I have been watching stuff in my oculus quest 2 and it is pretty darn awesome. I think this is the future, most definitely.

Oculus quest 2 still is not perfect. But I cannot imagine going to the theater with a few more generations of VR. (Oculus quest 5 maybe???)

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I think "Movies", as we remember them from the decades of yore, will have a resurgence in the near future due to 2 things: 1) The demand for movies outside of what the streaming services are making. 2) Most aspects of movie production go completely digital to bring costs down astronomically. The easiest way to embrace digital is to just make an animated movie that looks animated with some interesting cool art style /…

Also just the novelty of it, in a world where it went away for a bit. If vinyl records can come back, Boutique films in a movie theater and maybe even rental stores can too.

Blurays / physical media are making a comeback, like Vinyl I think part of it is a collection impulse among the top 1% of fans.

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> I rarely go to movie theaters because what is available on streaming is so much better, it's not a close call. Better seats, better sound (for me this means not being deafened), better food, better drinks, better price (and no dick moves to get a few more $), no parking issues, less annoying lights/sounds etc from other patrons. I also haven’t seen a theatre with a wood burner. It misses is the feeling of it being…

The real killer of the streaming for is that there is a pause button. I missed out a whole 5 minutes of Avengers Endgame thanks to my bladder.

I want intermissions back.

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I can understand most of Dillers complains but not this one: "These streaming services have been making something that they call 'movies,' " he said. "They ain't movies. They are some weird algorithmic process that has created things that last 100 minutes or so." I'd like to know why he disparages writers and directors who work on streaming movies this way and if it has any validity

These services have made some truely great movies possible and surely they offer a lot more opportunities for the arts. People like to complain that every netflix production is like the other when in reality they just refuse to make an effort to find the good stuff and take some minor risk of failure along the way.

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> I rarely go to movie theaters because what is available on streaming is so much better, it's not a close call. Better seats, better sound (for me this means not being deafened), better food, better drinks, better price (and no dick moves to get a few more $), no parking issues, less annoying lights/sounds etc from other patrons. I also haven’t seen a theatre with a wood burner. It misses is the feeling of it being…

The real killer of the streaming for is that there is a pause button. I missed out a whole 5 minutes of Avengers Endgame thanks to my bladder.

Some would argue that your bladder was doing you a service ;)

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Barry: Call me. I'll show you where you can find great art in movies, an order of magnitude more than what was available before. I'm a big believer in data and not personal anecdotes, but if I can do it, Barry can (and you can). I never imagined so much incredible art existed on video as what I've seen in the last 5+ years on streaming. The standard for what I will watch has risen dramatically - I don't have to compr…

> I rarely go to movie theaters because what is available on streaming is so much better, it's not a close call. Better seats, better sound (for me this means not being deafened), better food, better drinks, better price (and no dick moves to get a few more $), no parking issues, less annoying lights/sounds etc from other patrons. I also haven’t seen a theatre with a wood burner. It misses is the feeling of it being…

The open-mouthed chewing, soda slurping, and bag rustling is unbearable for me. It completely takes me out of the film, particularly during quiet scenes.

Re: Barry Diller: The movie business as before is finished and will never come back

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The real killer of the streaming for is that there is a pause button. I missed out a whole 5 minutes of Avengers Endgame thanks to my bladder.

Some would argue that your bladder was doing you a service ;)

I think the films were fairly enjoyable as long as you don't turn up with a film critic's hat on. But yes, missing 5 minutes probably wasn't a big deal at the end of the day.

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Where's the data? Let's have some references to all this high quality stuff.

The local cinemas have at most a dozen movies available at any one time, maybe one of which is interesting. One viewing requires $10-50 in assorted expenses. For $10-50 monthly, I have available approximately every movie ever made - and I don’t have to leave this chair. That is, at any given moment, one good movie vs all movies ever . Data sufficient.

Certainly not. Even the most torpid of us doesn't find the time or interest to watch all movies ever. Must likely the major cost here isn't your subscription fee, but the amount of limited leisure time and energy you can allocate. I'd be doing well too watch one movie a week if I was trying and I'd say that's not much to worse than average.

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I took the liberty of overlaying the stock price over the foot traffic :) https://imgur.com/a/jTkXhtx

Of course it looks strange -- the stock price reflects a short squeeze on naked shorts, not value or growth.

> short squeeze on naked shorts

Trading is getting really graphic these days

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