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List of Special Elevator Modes

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If says this about 'Pet Mode'

> Does not infect other passengers if the animal has an infection

I think this must be a mistranslation. There are very few infectious diseases that a human can get from being around a house pet. I think they mean allergies.

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my personal favorite is the Sabbath mode https://elevation.fandom.com/wiki/Sabbath_service_(SHO) not to pick on a specific belief system, but it's quite interesting the lengths people go to follow the letter but not the spirit of things.

I took my gap year in israel with a religious Jewish friends. We were slight stoners back then and on sabbath in order for him to get high I’d have to light a bong in a cupboard and fill the cupboard with smoke and then swap places with him. This was multiple times per sabbath every sabbath. I also had to constantly open the fridge for him because of the automatic light. I found these rituals ridiculous (20 years lat…

Any idea if he is still a zealot or if he is woke yet?

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If you assume omniscience and omnipotence as a starting point, then you can justify anything that exists using the same reason, otherwise it wouldn't exist, right? I don't mean to get into a theological or ontological argument, though. It just seems like you can use the foundation to justify anything you want.

"If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, then why did he make them out of meat?"

"If God didn't intend for us to eat people, then why did he make them out of meat?"

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>If God hadn't meant the loophole to be there then he would have used different words. The loophole is divine. One could just as well state that if God had meant the loophole to be there, he would have mentioned it.

When you believe in an omniscient and omnipotent lawgiver, that line of argument is a little weak.

Where did you get the idea that the Hebrew God is supposed to be omniscient and omnipotent? I am told that biblical Hebrew does not even have a word for omnipotent.

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In Orthodox Judaism, the letter of the law typically is the spirit of the law. Not a perfect analogy, but think of the talmud as similar to the tax code. There are things that are black, things that are white and things that are gray. If the tax code said there's a 5% sales tax on tangerines, clementines, navel oranges, lemons, and grapefruit, I'm probably not gonna volunteer to pay taxes on my Sumo Citruses, because…

So my Jewish friends could technically eat a cheese burger, as long as the cheese was placed on the burger after cooking? Would they have to wait till the burger cools down so that it doesn't melt the cheese? (Here I am concerned about carryover heating/cooking being considered cooking by law.) I am endlessly fascinated by religious laws and their implications/consequences.

You would have to find someone who counted the validity of the original law ("Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk" in Exodus https://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0223.htm) but did not count any later interpretation or fence around it.

Please talk to your participants well before you start this experiment; very few people are going to have an equivocal attitude towards it.

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I found a "mode" in an elevator in India that I have not seen anywhere else: if a destination floor number is highlighted, and you press it twice, it gets cancelled. I have used this magic power just once, when an obnoxious man got on and insisted on having a loud conversation on his phone. Since he wasn't paying attention, I double-tapped his floor number and made him skip. I happened to get off at the floor before his, so the elevator went down to the first floor after dropping me off. Small pleasures....

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Orthodox Judaism, the letter of the law typically is the spirit of the law. Not a perfect analogy, but think of the talmud as similar to the tax code. There are things that are black, things that are white and things that are gray. If the tax code said there's a 5% sales tax on tangerines, clementines, navel oranges, lemons, and grapefruit, I'm probably not gonna volunteer to pay taxes on my Sumo Citruses, because…

So my Jewish friends could technically eat a cheese burger, as long as the cheese was placed on the burger after cooking? Would they have to wait till the burger cools down so that it doesn't melt the cheese? (Here I am concerned about carryover heating/cooking being considered cooking by law.) I am endlessly fascinated by religious laws and their implications/consequences.

> So my Jewish friends could technically eat a cheese burger, as long as the cheese was placed on the burger after cooking?

No they can't, but this would be a violation of a rabbinical law (the rabbis forbade eating them together as a safeguard), which is less serious than a biblical law violation.

> Would they have to wait till the burger cools down so that it doesn't melt the cheese? (Here I am concerned about carryover heating/cooking being considered cooking by law.)

The real question you are asking is what counts as cooking. This has lots of ramifications in Jewish law, particularly because cooking in general is forbidden on the sabbath. From here, you can go down the rabbit hole of related questions. What temperature counts as cooking? If something has a low melting point, is it treated differently or is there an absolute temperature? Can you keep things warm on the Sabbath if they are already cooked? Can you rewarm them? I can go on and on, but the gist is that it gets complicated and this is the reason why there are many people who spend a lifetime learning talmud and never master it.

But to answer your question specifically, waiting for the burger to cool down is irrelevant in this case since it's rabbinically prohibited to eat them together anyway. The only real question is at what temperature it goes from a rabbinical to a biblical prohibition.

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Orthodox Judaism, the letter of the law typically is the spirit of the law. Not a perfect analogy, but think of the talmud as similar to the tax code. There are things that are black, things that are white and things that are gray. If the tax code said there's a 5% sales tax on tangerines, clementines, navel oranges, lemons, and grapefruit, I'm probably not gonna volunteer to pay taxes on my Sumo Citruses, because…

So my Jewish friends could technically eat a cheese burger, as long as the cheese was placed on the burger after cooking? Would they have to wait till the burger cools down so that it doesn't melt the cheese? (Here I am concerned about carryover heating/cooking being considered cooking by law.) I am endlessly fascinated by religious laws and their implications/consequences.

I can highly recommend "Legal Systems Very Different from Ours" by David Friedman

http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Legal%20Systems/LegalSystemsCo...

It includes a few chapters on religion-based legal systems and is interesting throughout.

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