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Re: List of Special Elevator Modes

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Post by disruptthelaw »

hawk_ wrote: post #6

my personal favorite is the Sabbath mode https://elevation.fandom.com/wiki/Sabbath_service_(SHO) not to pick on a specific belief system, but it's quite interesting the lengths people go to follow the letter but not the spirit of things.

I took my gap year in israel with a religious Jewish friends. We were slight stoners back then and on sabbath in order for him to get high I’d have to light a bong in a cupboard and fill the cupboard with smoke and then swap places with him. This was multiple times per sabbath every sabbath. I also had to constantly open the fridge for him because of the automatic light. I found these rituals ridiculous (20 years later I still do) and we fought over it and decided to part ways for the rest of the gap year.

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Post by LudwigNagasena »

AndrewDucker wrote: post #15
hawk_ wrote: post #6

my personal favorite is the Sabbath mode https://elevation.fandom.com/wiki/Sabbath_service_(SHO) not to pick on a specific belief system, but it's quite interesting the lengths people go to follow the letter but not the spirit of things.

The letter was, they believe, the word of God. If God hadn't meant the loophole to be there then he would have used different words. The loophole is divine .

If the loophole seems to go directly against intended meaning, can you say it’s there?

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Post by jtchang »

hawk_ wrote: post #6

my personal favorite is the Sabbath mode https://elevation.fandom.com/wiki/Sabbath_service_(SHO) not to pick on a specific belief system, but it's quite interesting the lengths people go to follow the letter but not the spirit of things.

Goes well with the Eruv around NYC: https://www.npr.org/2019/05/13/721551785/a-fishing-line-enci...

It is hilarious the lengths people go to.

Re: List of Special Elevator Modes

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Post by dkdbejwi383 »

mmazing wrote: post #2

I recall hearing of a mode one time where elevators would only go to the 2nd floor and not the 1st. Something for crime, etc. Maybe it was from a movie or something ... Edit : Thanks! Found it - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevator#Riot_mode

So only going 0 to 2 and that’s it? Not sure I understand the use case.

Re: List of Special Elevator Modes

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Post by galago »

llampx wrote: post #49

I wondered why, during the pandemic, it wasn't common to let elevators "air out" while they were idle. Given what we know about COVID-19 and how it spreads with aerosols. From looking at this list, it appears that that's not a mode they would have by default.

I work in an office building that's less than 5 years old. During the pandemic the elevators started returning to the ground floor and opening their doors. I wonder if the system is configured via the control panel in the elevator or if there's some other interface.

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Post by krapp »

Kalium wrote: post #41
krapp wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If God hadn't meant the loophole to be there then he would have used different words. The loophole is divine. One could just as well state that if God had meant the loophole to be there, he would have mentioned it.

When you believe in an omniscient and omnipotent lawgiver, that line of argument is a little weak.

I mean... If God's so omnipotent why did he need to rest on the seventh day to begin with?

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Post by BitwiseFool »

LudwigNagasena wrote: post #50
chadash wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Orthodox Judaism, the letter of the law typically is the spirit of the law. Not a perfect analogy, but think of the talmud as similar to the tax code. There are things that are black, things that are white and things that are gray. If the tax code said there's a 5% sales tax on tangerines, clementines, navel oranges, lemons, and grapefruit, I'm probably not gonna volunteer to pay taxes on my Sumo Citruses, because…

First, when people feel that the tax code doesn’t represent the spirit of the law, they change the wording, likely they will amend it and put the same tax on Sumo Citruses as on other citruses. So the tax code and the Talmud are quite different animals. Second, I am pretty sure the Talmud is not so precise to the point of specifically mentioning pressing pressing buttons on an elevator. So the analogy kind of doesn’t…

Imagine if the US Code suddenly became fixed and holy. Now imagine you are thousands of years in the future. Congress is long gone and if you're lucky you might have some notes and stories about how the laws were enforced in the past.

Naturally, the world has changed a lot since the text of the law became immutable. But who is to say how new things fit into the old framework? What about old contradictions that were never addressed? What about laws on the books that were never enforced in practice, do those still count? And so on.

In our hypothetical scenario there is no Supreme Court, but there would probably be dozens of 'pretenders to the throne' who believe they have the right to interpret the law correctly. So you as an individual can choose which school of thought you want to subscribe to. Letter of the law? Spirit of the Law?

And in a funny way, when we ask ourselves "what did the Founding Fathers want?" we are doing the same thing as theologians when they wonder what God wanted.

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Post by stickfigure »

BitwiseFool wrote: post #46
Kalium wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you believe in an omniscient and omnipotent lawgiver, that line of argument is a little weak.

If you assume omniscience and omnipotence as a starting point, then you can justify anything that exists using the same reason, otherwise it wouldn't exist, right? I don't mean to get into a theological or ontological argument, though. It just seems like you can use the foundation to justify anything you want.

"If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, then why did he make them out of meat?"

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Post by jakemal »

galago wrote: post #55
llampx wrote: post #49

I wondered why, during the pandemic, it wasn't common to let elevators "air out" while they were idle. Given what we know about COVID-19 and how it spreads with aerosols. From looking at this list, it appears that that's not a mode they would have by default.

I work in an office building that's less than 5 years old. During the pandemic the elevators started returning to the ground floor and opening their doors. I wonder if the system is configured via the control panel in the elevator or if there's some other interface.

Sounds like it was in up-peak mode? https://elevation.fandom.com/wiki/Up_peak_(MIT)
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