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Re: List of Special Elevator Modes

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Post by Kalium » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 8:58 PM UTC

krapp wrote: post #38

AndrewDucker wrote: post #15

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The letter was, they believe, the word of God. If God hadn't meant the loophole to be there then he would have used different words. The loophole is divine .

>If God hadn't meant the loophole to be there then he would have used different words. The loophole is divine. One could just as well state that if God had meant the loophole to be there, he would have mentioned it.

When you believe in an omniscient and omnipotent lawgiver, that line of argument is a little weak.

Re: List of Special Elevator Modes

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Post by geephroh » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 8:58 PM UTC

Slightly off-topic, but I'd definitely recommend Colson Whitehead's _The Intuitionist_[1] for anyone interested in the intersection of elevators and speculative mysteries. Never thought I'd get the chance to post this to an HN thread...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Intuitionist

Re: List of Special Elevator Modes

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Post by dbcurtis » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 8:59 PM UTC

dmurray wrote: post #24

dbcurtis wrote: post #13

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Some destination-dispatch systems used in high-end residential towers will not schedule pet owners and non-pet owners to the same cab at the same time. Which makes a lot of sense.

I'd expect it to be more of a problem having multiple pet owners in the same car.

Well you have dog-phobic or people with allergies for neighbors.

Re: List of Special Elevator Modes

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Post by canadianfella » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 9:00 PM UTC

hawk_ wrote: post #6

my personal favorite is the Sabbath mode https://elevation.fandom.com/wiki/Sabbath_service_(SHO) not to pick on a specific belief system, but it's quite interesting the lengths people go to follow the letter but not the spirit of things.

Can we all agree that religion is pretty silly?

Re: List of Special Elevator Modes

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Post by fansub » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 9:01 PM UTC

dinkleberg wrote: post #8

Maybe this is common knowledge, but I never knew people used fandom for topics like this. I’m amazed that it had 800+ articles and over 1000 videos on a wiki dedicated to elevators.

Fandom was formerly known as Wikia, the commercial platform launched by Jimmy Wales. This wiki (along with many others) was launched long before the Fandom name.

Re: List of Special Elevator Modes

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Post by BitwiseFool » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 9:02 PM UTC

Kalium wrote: post #41

krapp wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If God hadn't meant the loophole to be there then he would have used different words. The loophole is divine. One could just as well state that if God had meant the loophole to be there, he would have mentioned it.

When you believe in an omniscient and omnipotent lawgiver, that line of argument is a little weak.

If you assume omniscience and omnipotence as a starting point, then you can justify anything that exists using the same reason, otherwise it wouldn't exist, right? I don't mean to get into a theological or ontological argument, though. It just seems like you can use the foundation to justify anything you want.

Re: List of Special Elevator Modes

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Post by lozaning » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 9:06 PM UTC

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #36

jannyfer wrote: post #29

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Ooh I've no idea what that would do, but wanted to share something interesting I noticed. When I visited Korea, I've noticed companies tend to have exact 12-1PM lunchtimes, all at the same time. People raise eyebrows if you leave at 11:50 and return 12:50. At 12PM, it's hard to grab an elevator going down, so people will press the "up" button to try to catch an empty elevator, then ride it to the top then down to the…

> When I visited Korea, I've noticed companies tend to have exact 12-1PM lunchtimes, all at the same time. People raise eyebrows if you leave at 11:50 and return 12:50. It just seems so inefficient to do it that way? In theory, I guess the company sorta benefits from having everyone on/off at once, but doing it like that basically guarantees traffic jams.

All the buildings in Samsung's digital city in Suwon have their lunches organized by floor. It is verboten to go to the cafeteria before the lights on your floor dim, indicating it is now your floors turn. The cafeterias, while huge, aren't large enough to accomodate everyone going at the same time.

Re: List of Special Elevator Modes

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Post by asciimov » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 9:06 PM UTC

chadash wrote: post #23

hawk_ wrote: post #6

my personal favorite is the Sabbath mode https://elevation.fandom.com/wiki/Sabbath_service_(SHO) not to pick on a specific belief system, but it's quite interesting the lengths people go to follow the letter but not the spirit of things.

In Orthodox Judaism, the letter of the law typically is the spirit of the law. Not a perfect analogy, but think of the talmud as similar to the tax code. There are things that are black, things that are white and things that are gray. If the tax code said there's a 5% sales tax on tangerines, clementines, navel oranges, lemons, and grapefruit, I'm probably not gonna volunteer to pay taxes on my Sumo Citruses, because…

So my Jewish friends could technically eat a cheese burger, as long as the cheese was placed on the burger after cooking?

Would they have to wait till the burger cools down so that it doesn't melt the cheese? (Here I am concerned about carryover heating/cooking being considered cooking by law.)

I am endlessly fascinated by religious laws and their implications/consequences.

Re: List of Special Elevator Modes

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Post by llampx » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 9:10 PM UTC

I wondered why, during the pandemic, it wasn't common to let elevators "air out" while they were idle. Given what we know about COVID-19 and how it spreads with aerosols. From looking at this list, it appears that that's not a mode they would have by default.

Re: List of Special Elevator Modes

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Post by LudwigNagasena » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 9:10 PM UTC

chadash wrote: post #23

hawk_ wrote: post #6

my personal favorite is the Sabbath mode https://elevation.fandom.com/wiki/Sabbath_service_(SHO) not to pick on a specific belief system, but it's quite interesting the lengths people go to follow the letter but not the spirit of things.

In Orthodox Judaism, the letter of the law typically is the spirit of the law. Not a perfect analogy, but think of the talmud as similar to the tax code. There are things that are black, things that are white and things that are gray. If the tax code said there's a 5% sales tax on tangerines, clementines, navel oranges, lemons, and grapefruit, I'm probably not gonna volunteer to pay taxes on my Sumo Citruses, because…

First, when people feel that the tax code doesn’t represent the spirit of the law, they change the wording, likely they will amend it and put the same tax on Sumo Citruses as on other citruses. So the tax code and the Talmud are quite different animals.

Second, I am pretty sure the Talmud is not so precise to the point of specifically mentioning pressing pressing buttons on an elevator. So the analogy kind of doesn’t work there again.