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Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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The hashtags insinuated the government was planning a farmer genocide. Source: https://m.economictimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/govt-se...

How is that a threat to India's sovereignty or security? Modi is infamous for having caused, by his actions or inactions, the Gujarat riots that killed 2000+ people. Hell, he was even banned from entering the US, till he became the Indian PM. There is blood on his hands and lots of it. And to give some context on this hash tag, I believe it came after the gov't put across barricades and barbed wires to caroll the pro…

Be careful what you say or Modi will demand that Hacker News hire a local Indian censor.

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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Removing that kind of illegal content by the police is 100% different from political officials asking to have content critical of the gov't removed.

The point is that India is a sovereign republic and has its own laws about what is illegal and is not. According to India's laws, spreading false rumours about the police shooting a farmer when there is clear evidence that the person actually died by running his tractor into a barricade is illegal. And when Twitter failed to comply with government's orders to remove these tweets, they didn't have any point of contact…

Who determines that their is "clear evidence". Shouldn't a judge be involved?

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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What about "news" channels that do the same? This has been going on with Fox and others for decades. They only propagandize the news.

They are publishers. They exert full control over what goes on their air.

I think more importantly, they're responsible for anything they put on the air. Twitter claims a lack of responsibility, yet also wants to be the final arbiter.

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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> What's the major difference between Twitter moderating tweets and a privately-owned forum moderating comments? Reach.

Compelling counter argument. Why would the First Amendment's freedom of association change because a group is too large or loud in the public sphere?

Where does the First Amendment mention freedom of association?

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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"The IT rules, which became effective end-May, are aimed at regulating content on social media and making firms act more swiftly on legal requests to remove posts and sharing details on the originators of messages. They also require the appointment of certain new executives." The article makes this sound like a massive detriment to free speech. Companies removing content on their own platforms makes sense. However, g…

>They also require the appointment of certain new executives Ah so just like china? >Now a wide range of foreign companies in China, from the cosmetics giant L’Oréal to Walt Disney and Dow Chemicals, all have party committees and display the hammer and sickle on their premises. In 2017, Reuters published an article that quoted executives from one European company saying that party representatives had demanded to be b…

No. They just need to appoint any resident in India they deem fit for the job. As said in another commenter here, Twitter doesn't have any accountable person resident in the country to raise complaints and get clarification. But, these rules aren't just for Twitter but for all "significant" intermediaries to retain their status as such.

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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Those concerns were about government control on speech, in that case, a foreign government.

How did you reach this conclusion? Was it with the help of the same govt that you'd rather not trust?

1. Speech rights (or any rights) stand on their own, they're not predicated on trust or distrust.

2. The corporate structure of those companies is information that is available from sources other than the US government.

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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post #114

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Compelling counter argument. Why would the First Amendment's freedom of association change because a group is too large or loud in the public sphere?

Where does the First Amendment mention freedom of association?

Freedom of speech implies freedom of association: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_association#United_...

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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post #114

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Compelling counter argument. Why would the First Amendment's freedom of association change because a group is too large or loud in the public sphere?

Where does the First Amendment mention freedom of association?

While the United States Constitution's First Amendment identifies the rights to assemble and to petition the government, the text of the First Amendment does not make specific mention of a right to association. Nevertheless, the United States Supreme Court held in NAACP v. Alabama (1958) that freedom of association is an essential part of freedom of speech because, in many cases, people can engage in effective speech only when they join with others.

from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_association

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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post #113
post #89

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They are publishers. They exert full control over what goes on their air.

I think more importantly, they're responsible for anything they put on the air. Twitter claims a lack of responsibility, yet also wants to be the final arbiter.

Fox has also claimed a lack of responsibility, saying they are not a news outlet but are instead an entertainment provider.

https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case...

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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The point is that India is a sovereign republic and has its own laws about what is illegal and is not. According to India's laws, spreading false rumours about the police shooting a farmer when there is clear evidence that the person actually died by running his tractor into a barricade is illegal. And when Twitter failed to comply with government's orders to remove these tweets, they didn't have any point of contact…

Who determines that their is "clear evidence". Shouldn't a judge be involved?

>Who determines that their is "clear evidence".

In this case, anyone with an eye.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgSLaOMEzHY

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