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Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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> I trust my govt. way more than I will ever trust a Foreign entity. You trust a government that's trying to censor content they don't like over a company that doesn't want to censor it?

twitter is not censoring content?? hahaha what world are we living in?

Twitter wasn't censoring the content the Indian government has introduced new laws to compel them to censor

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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"The IT rules, which became effective end-May, are aimed at regulating content on social media and making firms act more swiftly on legal requests to remove posts and sharing details on the originators of messages. They also require the appointment of certain new executives." The article makes this sound like a massive detriment to free speech. Companies removing content on their own platforms makes sense. However, g…

> Companies removing content on their own platforms makes sense. However, governments being able to force the removal of content (such as a "controversial hash tag related to farmer protests against new agricultural reforms") can't be good. I disagree. Both are bad. When you grow to the size of Facebook, Twitter, etc. Removing content from your own platform allows you to spread propaganda that meets your own agenda.…

It is bad when Twitter removes content. But I don't think that means it should necessarily be prohibited; compelled speech is also bad.

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

#83
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"The IT rules, which became effective end-May, are aimed at regulating content on social media and making firms act more swiftly on legal requests to remove posts and sharing details on the originators of messages. They also require the appointment of certain new executives." The article makes this sound like a massive detriment to free speech. Companies removing content on their own platforms makes sense. However, g…

> Companies removing content on their own platforms makes sense. However, governments being able to force the removal of content (such as a "controversial hash tag related to farmer protests against new agricultural reforms") can't be good. I disagree. Both are bad. When you grow to the size of Facebook, Twitter, etc. Removing content from your own platform allows you to spread propaganda that meets your own agenda.…

What about "news" channels that do the same? This has been going on with Fox and others for decades. They only propagandize the news.

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

#84

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> I trust my govt. way more than I will ever trust a Foreign entity. You trust a government that's trying to censor content they don't like over a company that doesn't want to censor it?

If you take Huawei and TikTok, would you make the same argument? Why trust the govt just in select cases?

Those concerns were about government control on speech, in that case, a foreign government.

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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I don't like the government, but I hate monopoly of the twitter ever more than I hate the existing government or their opposition or any coalition of them. I hate any single entity owning this much power. So government bending them a little is a good thing at least right now.

I am somewhat confused how a middling social network of ~200M (generously) active users with a message limit of 280 chars has a lot of power? Celebrating government strong arming is an interesting take and only nice when its going your way. Always imagine whatever government excess you are ok with in this instance is now going against your position and see if you still like it.

Perhaps you're confused, but the rest of Europe isn't confused at how Twitter has a lot of power:

German Chancellor Angela Merkel objected to the decisions [of banning Trump], saying on Monday that lawmakers should set the rules governing free speech and not private technology companies. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-11/merkel-se...

Emmanuel Macron blasts social media platforms for banning Trump https://www.axios.com/macron-social-media-bans-trump-twitter...

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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> Companies removing content on their own platforms makes sense. However, governments being able to force the removal of content (such as a "controversial hash tag related to farmer protests against new agricultural reforms") can't be good. I disagree. Both are bad. When you grow to the size of Facebook, Twitter, etc. Removing content from your own platform allows you to spread propaganda that meets your own agenda.…

I mean, I disagree with (some of) platforms' content removal, but I don't disagree with their legal right to do so. If Twitter becomes a propaganda machine deleting any tweet it disagrees with, I think that's shitty and if I had an account I'd delete it to avoid participating, but I'm not sold on why the government should make that illegal . People and private organizations currently have the right to propagandize in…

> What's the major difference between Twitter moderating tweets and a privately-owned forum moderating comments?

Reach.

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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It is worth noting that the IT mister resigned[1] just a day back in a massive cabinet reshuffling (if you could call that). Twitter attracted the ruling government's wrath when it didn't censor/takedown Tweets supporting farmers' protests and those critical of government's handling of COVID's 2nd wave. [1] https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/breaking-ravi-shankar...

That doesn't seem true. Popular platforms like YouTube, Facebook and Twitter still have a lot of "pro-farmer" posts and at least the former two are not exactly in a tussle with the Government. The government's relationship Twitter took a wrong turn when Twitter displayed lethargy in removing content that propagated fake news and celebrated terrorists(as per india)

https://www.news18.com/news/india/remove-tweets-accounts-rel...

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/govt-defends-twitter-ban-sa...

The new regulations do seem to be a stretch. It's like using an artillery to destroy a skirmisher.

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

#88

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> Companies removing content on their own platforms makes sense. However, governments being able to force the removal of content (such as a "controversial hash tag related to farmer protests against new agricultural reforms") can't be good. I disagree. Both are bad. When you grow to the size of Facebook, Twitter, etc. Removing content from your own platform allows you to spread propaganda that meets your own agenda.…

It is bad when Twitter removes content. But I don't think that means it should necessarily be prohibited; compelled speech is also bad.

If you are a true platform, which the social media giants insist that they are, then it's tough to call it "compelled speech" when it was posted by someone who is not representing the company. The company is not the one saying it, despite it being hosted by them.

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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> Companies removing content on their own platforms makes sense. However, governments being able to force the removal of content (such as a "controversial hash tag related to farmer protests against new agricultural reforms") can't be good. I disagree. Both are bad. When you grow to the size of Facebook, Twitter, etc. Removing content from your own platform allows you to spread propaganda that meets your own agenda.…

What about "news" channels that do the same? This has been going on with Fox and others for decades. They only propagandize the news.

They are publishers. They exert full control over what goes on their air.

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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Let's be specific. The Government requested the takedown of the hashtag, #ModiPlanningFarmerGenocide This seems reasonable.

Is it? I don't know the particulars of India's constitution but suppressing speech like this is generally frowned upon by democracies.

Both Japan and South Korea made more legal demands for takedown of tweets than India (with Japan making 8 times more takedown requests than India). Are they also not democracies?

Source: https://transparency.twitter.com/en/reports/removal-requests...

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