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Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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Post by ridiculous_leke »

perihelions wrote: post #13

Buried in the last paragraph: > "Police in two Indian states have named Twitter India boss Manish Maheshwari in complaints. The state of Uttar Pradesh has challenged in the Supreme Court a bar on police action against Maheshwari, after a lower court protected him against arrest over an accusation that the platform was used to spread hate." Really wondering why Twitter is continuing its presence in a country where its…

> Really wondering why Twitter is continuing its presence in a country where its employees are criminally prosecuted, merely for being Twitter employees.

Revenue and Profits. Just look up how much Twitter India made last quarter. The figures are not insignificant.

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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Post by dmingod666 »

pcmoney wrote: post #59
invertedreversi wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's be specific. The Government requested the takedown of the hashtag, #ModiPlanningFarmerGenocide This seems reasonable.

Reasonable in fascist Germany sure, on a democratic platform? Not so much. US companies need start saying "screw you" to more countries (the US included) when asked to violate their values. We need to be telling China to pound sand every day in every way we can.

World war 2 ended last century around the world, and in some ways a little bit in the US as well, but, interestingly the majority of the population still is quite unaware of this trivia.

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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Post by driverdan »

philliphaydon wrote: post #61
OzyM wrote: post #2

"The IT rules, which became effective end-May, are aimed at regulating content on social media and making firms act more swiftly on legal requests to remove posts and sharing details on the originators of messages. They also require the appointment of certain new executives." The article makes this sound like a massive detriment to free speech. Companies removing content on their own platforms makes sense. However, g…

> Companies removing content on their own platforms makes sense. However, governments being able to force the removal of content (such as a "controversial hash tag related to farmer protests against new agricultural reforms") can't be good. I disagree. Both are bad. When you grow to the size of Facebook, Twitter, etc. Removing content from your own platform allows you to spread propaganda that meets your own agenda.…

Platforms need to moderate content or it will be 90% spam.

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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Post by OzyM »

philliphaydon wrote: post #61
OzyM wrote: post #2

"The IT rules, which became effective end-May, are aimed at regulating content on social media and making firms act more swiftly on legal requests to remove posts and sharing details on the originators of messages. They also require the appointment of certain new executives." The article makes this sound like a massive detriment to free speech. Companies removing content on their own platforms makes sense. However, g…

> Companies removing content on their own platforms makes sense. However, governments being able to force the removal of content (such as a "controversial hash tag related to farmer protests against new agricultural reforms") can't be good. I disagree. Both are bad. When you grow to the size of Facebook, Twitter, etc. Removing content from your own platform allows you to spread propaganda that meets your own agenda.…

I mean, I disagree with (some of) platforms' content removal, but I don't disagree with their legal right to do so.

If Twitter becomes a propaganda machine deleting any tweet it disagrees with, I think that's shitty and if I had an account I'd delete it to avoid participating, but I'm not sold on why the government should make that illegal.

People and private organizations currently have the right to propagandize in the U.S. (without explicitly calling for violent uprisings, etc). What's the major difference between Twitter moderating tweets and a privately-owned forum moderating comments?

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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Post by driverdan »

ikilledthecat wrote: post #70
OzyM wrote: post #2

"The IT rules, which became effective end-May, are aimed at regulating content on social media and making firms act more swiftly on legal requests to remove posts and sharing details on the originators of messages. They also require the appointment of certain new executives." The article makes this sound like a massive detriment to free speech. Companies removing content on their own platforms makes sense. However, g…

As an Indian citizen I'd rather not have a shithead american executive lord over information flow in my country. I trust my govt. way more than I will ever trust a Foreign entity. Twitter should comply with Indian laws if it wants to operate here. It's as simple as that.

> I trust my govt. way more than I will ever trust a Foreign entity.

You trust a government that's trying to censor content they don't like over a company that doesn't want to censor it?

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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Post by ridiculous_leke »

alfalfasprout wrote: post #47
invertedreversi wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's be specific. The Government requested the takedown of the hashtag, #ModiPlanningFarmerGenocide This seems reasonable.

Is it? I don't know the particulars of India's constitution but suppressing speech like this is generally frowned upon by democracies.

India might be an exception in that case. India has strong hate speech laws which are routinely used against journalists.

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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Post by ikilledthecat »

driverdan wrote: post #75
ikilledthecat wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an Indian citizen I'd rather not have a shithead american executive lord over information flow in my country. I trust my govt. way more than I will ever trust a Foreign entity. Twitter should comply with Indian laws if it wants to operate here. It's as simple as that.

> I trust my govt. way more than I will ever trust a Foreign entity. You trust a government that's trying to censor content they don't like over a company that doesn't want to censor it?

twitter is not censoring content?? hahaha what world are we living in?

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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Post by msravi »

OzyM wrote: post #48
msravi wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That plus forcing the company to hire government-approved executives Where did you get that from? Completely untrue. The new IT rules mandate the appointment of persons in certain executive roles, and companies, including Twitter, have the freedom to choose whomsoever they please, as long as he/she is an Indian resident - they don't have to be "government approved" Twitter didn't want to have a responsible officer…

I read the government's requirement of certain executive roles + the requirement of it being an Indian citizen as the government having undue control over a private (foreign) company's executive positions. I'm still not familiar with the background on the mandating of these new executive roles, but wanting the person overseeing implementation of your country's laws to be from your country at least makes sense to me.…

Just to be clear, the law doesn't require that the role be filled by an Indian citizen. It just requires that the person be a resident of India.

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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Post by okt2020 »

ikilledthecat wrote: post #70
OzyM wrote: post #2

"The IT rules, which became effective end-May, are aimed at regulating content on social media and making firms act more swiftly on legal requests to remove posts and sharing details on the originators of messages. They also require the appointment of certain new executives." The article makes this sound like a massive detriment to free speech. Companies removing content on their own platforms makes sense. However, g…

As an Indian citizen I'd rather not have a shithead american executive lord over information flow in my country. I trust my govt. way more than I will ever trust a Foreign entity. Twitter should comply with Indian laws if it wants to operate here. It's as simple as that.

Given our population (India) we have 3 times more shitheads assuming ceteris paribus. So likelihood of an Indian head who is a shit head is there. Compliance with local laws is well taken and twitter with its stupid bot storms masquerading as f.o.e was always asking for it.

Re: Twitter begins hiring to comply with India’s new rules

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Post by dmingod666 »

driverdan wrote: post #75
ikilledthecat wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an Indian citizen I'd rather not have a shithead american executive lord over information flow in my country. I trust my govt. way more than I will ever trust a Foreign entity. Twitter should comply with Indian laws if it wants to operate here. It's as simple as that.

> I trust my govt. way more than I will ever trust a Foreign entity. You trust a government that's trying to censor content they don't like over a company that doesn't want to censor it?

If you take Huawei and TikTok, would you make the same argument? Why trust the govt just in select cases?
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