The distraction of notifications, or "sign up for our email news letter" distractions I'm certainly against. But, the fact of having my time wasted (getting a notification I don't care about) has highlighted other things that waste my time such as Movies that start with 1-3 minutes of company logos. An animation of "A Scott Free Production", followed by an animated logo of "Bad Robot", followed by yet another animate…
A call to minimize distraction and respect users’ attention (2013)
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Re: A call to minimize distraction and respect users’ attention (2013)
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a great point; I forgot entirely about exemptions. Do you happen to know of any existing regulation-with-exceptions that I can cite, to persuade others (and incidentally myself) that regulation isn't such a bad idea? Ideally something related to FAANG, but any software regulation with reasonable exemptions would be a fine example. To be honest, I'm worried that politicians would muck things up during the legi…
> Or that we'll run into yet another law where you're required to pop up a banner saying "This site uses cookies, just like everyone else, lol." Is there any such law? I always understood that to be a widespread misunderstanding. Just like the way every website pops up a dialog box asking you to approve tracking or click through some complex flow to disapprove. They aren't required to do that. But business people are…
GitHub recently published a post called “no cookie for you” or some such, which made that distinction clear. They said they were able to get rid of the popup by not doing any ads.
But still, it feels… wildly unhelpful to inform users that cookies are being used for ads. I’d love to understand the other viewpoint, though.
Re: A call to minimize distraction and respect users’ attention (2013)
#243The script uses a feature of HTTP/1.1 called pipelining; proponents of HTTP/2 and HTTP/3 want people to believe it has problems because it does not fit their commercialised web business model. As demonstrated by the script below, it has no problems. It's a feature that simply does not suit the online ad industry-funded business model with its gigantic corporate browser, bloated conglomeration web pages and incessant data collection. Here, only 2 TCP connections are used to retrieve 141 images. Most servers are less restrictive and allow more than 100 requests per TCP connection. Pipelining works great. Much more efficient than browsers which open hundreds of connections. IMHO.
(export Connection=keep-alive
x1=http://www.minimizedistraction.com/img/vrg_google_doc_final_vrs03-
x2(){ seq -f "$x1%g.jpg" $1 $2;};
x3(){ yy025|nc -vvn 173.236.175.199 80;};
x2 1 100|x3;
x2 101 200|x3;
)|exec yy056|exec od -An -tx1 -vw99999|exec tr -d '\40'|exec sed 's/ffd9ffd8/ffd9\
ffd8/g'|exec sed -n /ffd8/p|exec split -l1;
for x in x??;do xxd -p -r $x.jpg;rm $x;done;
convert x??.jpg 1.pdf 2>/dev/null;rm x??.jpg
ls -l ./1.pdf
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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27769701Re: A call to minimize distraction and respect users’ attention (2013)
#244The distraction of notifications, or "sign up for our email news letter" distractions I'm certainly against. But, the fact of having my time wasted (getting a notification I don't care about) has highlighted other things that waste my time such as Movies that start with 1-3 minutes of company logos. An animation of "A Scott Free Production", followed by an animated logo of "Bad Robot", followed by yet another animate…
I think those things nowadays serve the role of easing you into the film, allow everyone to settle down, finish what they're doing, etc - a lot of films start with something important right away. And it's better than it used to be, older films used to have a long reel of credits before the film started. Anyway, services like Netflix should be able to add a skip button for those.
Re: A call to minimize distraction and respect users’ attention (2013)
#245All I've heard for the past 12+ years is "engagement". The singular focus on that one word to the exclusion of everything else is astounding to me. As if it is some magic incantation on the part of BizDev (or whatever they're called these days) that instantly transmogrifies users into profits. At one company I worked at, we had a digital product that was part of a suite of services our company provided. It was useful…
Without arguing against that your marketing team was just following industry trends blindly, I would claim it's hard to imagine a product where increased engagement is not a benefit to the business.
Being top-of-mind as a product and a brand is a big advantage, and even with no direct sale, ad revenue or referrals happening from the engagement, you will see increased conversions from word-of-mouth and increased resell/upsell on the product or associated products.
Re: A call to minimize distraction and respect users’ attention (2013)
#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's easy to be right. But to be right is not the same as being useful.
"Easy to be right"?? Good to know. But why isn't everyone doing it, then? Maybe you have a useful idea on regulating attention-sucking? Please share.
And if they skip the pub, they take out their phones and go being right online on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and Hacker News.
Re: A call to minimize distraction and respect users’ attention (2013)
#247Lately Microsoft has decided to stuff ‘news’ and similar distractions in Windows and they might listen to criticism because they get paid anyway.
Re: A call to minimize distraction and respect users’ attention (2013)
#248Re: A call to minimize distraction and respect users’ attention (2013)
#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a great format for reaching functional illiterates, which accurately describes huge portions of the white collar workforce.
Amen. For more on that, see Edward Tufte's "The Cognitive Style of PowerPoint". It's no wonder Jeff Bezos insists on his subordinates bringing 2-3 page length essays, not slides, to decision meetings. https://www.inf.ed.ac.uk/teaching/courses/pi/2016_2017/phil/... https://mondaynote.com/bezos-a-ceo-who-can-write-2f368ee3659...
A slideshow isn't meant to be read in the absence of a speaker giving a presentation. It exists to support the speaker in their presentation. If the intent is to offer a resource which can act as a substitute for attending a presentation, a slideshow is an inappropriate choice.
A good lecture typically makes effective use of a slideshow. Lectures are mostly non-interactive, but this needs no apology, contrary to what the article seems to imply. Perhaps other kinds of presentations should be more interactive, but I don't see that non-interactivity is always a failing.
Similarly, a good slideshow can make effective use of bullet-points. Bullet-points don't always mean you're skipping over important detail, or that you've failed to properly structure the content.
> The Board views the endemic use of PowerPoint briefing slides instead of technical papers as an illustration of the problematic methods of technical communication at NASA
Right. A slideshow is not a substitute for a proper write-up, it's just a presentation aid.
In some contexts you might get away with not doing a formal write-up, but certainly not in a life-and-death context like the one mentioned in the article.
> For serious presentations, it will be useful to replace PowerPoint slides with paper handouts showing words, numbers, data graphics, images together.
I can see that might work well, but I can see this might degrade into just rewriting a technical paper to fit the flow of the presentation. It might make more sense to just say For more detail, see the formal paper. Certainly a slideshow is not a substitute for a proper paper, but even a handout will presumably lose some of what the full paper has to say. If the full information is already there in the paper, why not refer people to it?
Re: A call to minimize distraction and respect users’ attention (2013)
#250The distraction of notifications, or "sign up for our email news letter" distractions I'm certainly against. But, the fact of having my time wasted (getting a notification I don't care about) has highlighted other things that waste my time such as Movies that start with 1-3 minutes of company logos. An animation of "A Scott Free Production", followed by an animated logo of "Bad Robot", followed by yet another animate…
Anything other than a single button press to reach the start screen is excessive.