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Gibraltar, world’s only airport runway intersecting a road

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Re: Gibraltar, world’s only airport runway intersecting a road

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With the runway?

I don't recall seeing it. There's a plane, and parachuting from the plane, but I don't recall that you ever see the runway.

It would be a funny twist on the train to get across the train tracks before the train comes trope.

Re: Gibraltar, world’s only airport runway intersecting a road

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I find that surprising rather than unsurprising. After all, a plane can easily do a no-fault turn-around and can observe the train in a collision path from up above while the same cannot be said for a train.

In Seattle, we built the light rail down the middle of a main roadway. The train has to stop for red lights to let cars through. It's so backwards, it's ridiculous. Always fun when the train driver notices it late and slams on the brakes.

Minneapolis built their light rail right down the middle of a main roadway, and the train does have to stop for red lights, but there is no train conductor because the train is wired into the stoplight system and slows down/stops/accelerates appropriately. The lights have also been re-timed to allow for the train. Works pretty well in my experience.

Re: Gibraltar, world’s only airport runway intersecting a road

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I find that surprising rather than unsurprising. After all, a plane can easily do a no-fault turn-around and can observe the train in a collision path from up above while the same cannot be said for a train.

In Seattle, we built the light rail down the middle of a main roadway. The train has to stop for red lights to let cars through. It's so backwards, it's ridiculous. Always fun when the train driver notices it late and slams on the brakes.

Light rail with no separation down main roads exists in a lot of places (including San Francisco) as the right of way is already available.

In Redwood City there's a freight line that runs down the middle of a residential street with zero grade separation or fencing or anything else. You can drive over it if there's no train on it. Unsurprisingly it's a poor neighborhood.

Re: Gibraltar, world’s only airport runway intersecting a road

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My understanding is it is legal for planes in Alaska to just land on a road. They have relatively few roads and many places are only accessible via plane, boat or some other alternative to cars (like dog sled) for at least part of the year. They have about six times as many pilots per capita as the rest of the US. Some of their little towns have amazingly minimal airport amenities and crudely constructed landing stri…

Video demonstration of merging into traffic after a gas station pit stop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgQIcK881es

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Re: Gibraltar, world’s only airport runway intersecting a road

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Moffett Field in Mountain View has a road that crosses a taxiway and it doesn't even have gates like this one does, just a stop sign and a sign that says "yield to aircraft" which I always thought was excellent advice.

I only had to stop for a plane once. It was a flying observatory. OK I admit it: this wasn't an accidental meeting; I knew it would be flying and hung around so I would have a story.

Re: Gibraltar, world’s only airport runway intersecting a road

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In Seattle, we built the light rail down the middle of a main roadway. The train has to stop for red lights to let cars through. It's so backwards, it's ridiculous. Always fun when the train driver notices it late and slams on the brakes.

Minneapolis built their light rail right down the middle of a main roadway, and the train does have to stop for red lights, but there is no train conductor because the train is wired into the stoplight system and slows down/stops/accelerates appropriately. The lights have also been re-timed to allow for the train. Works pretty well in my experience.

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Re: Gibraltar, world’s only airport runway intersecting a road

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It severely limits traffic, both air and land. There will be a tunnel for cars opening later this year. It is another kind of road rage sitting 45 minutes in a car in a queue when some dick decides to land with his private jet.

This doesn't seem like that much of a burden to endure. There are many many places in the USA where vehicular traffic must defer to rail traffic at level crossings. Which can easily occur more often than 30x per week (30 number is from the article). At some crossings it's not unusual to have a slow moving freight train take 15 minutes or more. How long is the road crossed for each plane? I'd expect 5 or 10 minutes ma…

> This doesn't seem like that much of a burden to endure.

The road in Gibraltar is a main thoroughfare and I believe the only way to get to the Spanish border. Imagine a rail crossing going through the 101 in SF.

Re: Gibraltar, world’s only airport runway intersecting a road

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It severely limits traffic, both air and land. There will be a tunnel for cars opening later this year. It is another kind of road rage sitting 45 minutes in a car in a queue when some dick decides to land with his private jet.

Almost as bad as a different country claim stealing a portion of your country and claiming it as theirs?

Gibraltar was ceded by treaty, and Spain has not one, but TWO exclaves along the Moroccan coast.
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