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Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

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Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

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post #7

Why would anyone in particular 4chan care about this fork? It's like 20 commits (but apparently 20 weeks of drama) ahead of audacity and you already need a decoder ring to read this thread.

- Dev holds contest to name new fork

- 4chan meme reference wins contest (Sneedacity)

- Dev declares results invalid

Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

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> cookiengineer claims 4chan members took things considerably further, including into physical harassment. He claimed: "It was attempted murder with an illegal butterfly knife. In the whole state of Germany, butterfly knifes are considered an illegal weapon. There were three witnesses in place that saw the incident. I was slit in the arm. On private property, that you have to physically break into in order to enter."

This is scary to read. I cannot imagine being personally attacked for something as mundane as forking a Github repository and making some commits.

> "I am in contact with GitHub and the German BKA (federal police) as of now, therefore I will not disclose any more information publicly about what happened to anyone. Evidence has been gathered, submitted and will be acted upon. I will not legally let go of this."

It's good to hear that cookiengineer is taking this through the appropriate legal channels. Nobody should have to live in fear.

Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

#14

These are serious allegations. Allegations of such seriousness should require proof of equally serious merit before conclusions are drawn. Also, why does it seem this particular website or sites like Reddit become personified through action whereas Facebook, YT, Video Games etc don’t? We don’t say “a crazy person from counter strike” we say, “a crazy person playing X or Y game”. The framing here to this story is stra…

Most people don't walk around recording evidence all day long. Which attackers know and make use of. So the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and a good system acknowledges that.

In this particular case, there seems to have been evidence submitted to the police, so why you would say there is none is strange to me.

Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

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post #7

Why would anyone in particular 4chan care about this fork? It's like 20 commits (but apparently 20 weeks of drama) ahead of audacity and you already need a decoder ring to read this thread.

tenacity isn't anything special when most of their commits are literally trivial README corrections, while sneedacity has received quite a number of code contributions in just a few days.

Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

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post #14

These are serious allegations. Allegations of such seriousness should require proof of equally serious merit before conclusions are drawn. Also, why does it seem this particular website or sites like Reddit become personified through action whereas Facebook, YT, Video Games etc don’t? We don’t say “a crazy person from counter strike” we say, “a crazy person playing X or Y game”. The framing here to this story is stra…

Most people don't walk around recording evidence all day long. Which attackers know and make use of. So the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and a good system acknowledges that. In this particular case, there seems to have been evidence submitted to the police, so why you would say there is none is strange to me.

Respectfully claiming to have given evidence to someone else, is not, in and of itself, evidence. It is merely a unsubstantiated claim.

On a personal level, my gut is screaming that somethings fishy here. I'm reserving judgement until it all plays out in the courts.

Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

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There is no way to justify stabbing someone, but to blame it on ‘the hacker known as 4chan’ is a bit ridiculous. 4Chan is a website, it does not physically abuse people.

This began with idiots stalking this developer at his home address. There are laws against stalking people. Those laws need to be applied to these people so they see, hey, if I act like an idiot and go stalk someone because people on a website are egging me on, I go to jail, so I’d better not do that.

And if they’re to stupid to see that, they are in jail so they can’t stalk people.

Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

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post #14

These are serious allegations. Allegations of such seriousness should require proof of equally serious merit before conclusions are drawn. Also, why does it seem this particular website or sites like Reddit become personified through action whereas Facebook, YT, Video Games etc don’t? We don’t say “a crazy person from counter strike” we say, “a crazy person playing X or Y game”. The framing here to this story is stra…

Most people don't walk around recording evidence all day long. Which attackers know and make use of. So the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and a good system acknowledges that. In this particular case, there seems to have been evidence submitted to the police, so why you would say there is none is strange to me.

If someone stabs you, and you have enough time to post about it on the internet, for sure you have time to take a few pictures of it. Me, personally, it would prob. be the first thing I would do after making myself safe, so I have evidence to show.

But who knows, the only safe bet is not to believe stuff you read on the internet. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edit: Sorry for being rational, but there's no evidence on either side.

Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

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There is no way to justify stabbing someone, but to blame it on ‘the hacker known as 4chan’ is a bit ridiculous. 4Chan is a website, it does not physically abuse people. This began with idiots stalking this developer at his home address. There are laws against stalking people. Those laws need to be applied to these people so they see, hey, if I act like an idiot and go stalk someone because people on a website are eg…

Like some of the other people here, I'm not going to assume 100% that this is real until more of the facts come out. That said, I wouldn't put this past people from 4chan in their crusade of nihilism and destruction.

Of course 4chan is not a monolith and there are plenty of peaceful people there (especially outside of /b/) but at some point it becomes obvious that this is a place where some very dark people meet up online to do dark stuff, sometimes out in the real world.

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