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Israel data reportedly shows efficacy drop of Pfizer-BioNTech for delta variant

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Re: Israel data reportedly shows efficacy drop of Pfizer-BioNTech for delta variant

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Post by airhead969 »

jcims wrote: post #123
airhead969 wrote: post #106

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You're either a bloody liar, delusional, naïve, or don't have functioning eyes. - Famine in Yemen. Ongoing. - Famine in South Sudan. Ongoing. - Two years of drought in certain countries would push the world into global famine. Climate change weather patterns like Oregon/Canada and the ongoing mega drought in the US west and SW are just previews. - Millions and millions of homeless in America. I can see the camps and…

Two comments stood out to me in browsing as needlessly rude and angsty, and it turns out they were both yours. Are you commenting for effect or just to vent?

What do you have to add of value? You take and make things too personally. Look in the mirror.

Re: Israel data reportedly shows efficacy drop of Pfizer-BioNTech for delta variant

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Post by airhead969 »

samatman wrote: post #127
airhead969 wrote: post #106

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You're either a bloody liar, delusional, naïve, or don't have functioning eyes. - Famine in Yemen. Ongoing. - Famine in South Sudan. Ongoing. - Two years of drought in certain countries would push the world into global famine. Climate change weather patterns like Oregon/Canada and the ongoing mega drought in the US west and SW are just previews. - Millions and millions of homeless in America. I can see the camps and…

Your first sentence contains the kind of abusive language which has no place on this platform. Don't do that here.

I did not mean to offend your delicate pearl-clutchings, white knight defending idiots, that was just a bonus.

Re: Israel data reportedly shows efficacy drop of Pfizer-BioNTech for delta variant

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Post by samatman »

airhead969 wrote: post #252
samatman wrote: post #127

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Your first sentence contains the kind of abusive language which has no place on this platform. Don't do that here.

I did not mean to offend your delicate pearl-clutchings, white knight defending idiots, that was just a bonus.

Point is that your account won't last around here if you keep breaking the rules. Simple as.

Re: Israel data reportedly shows efficacy drop of Pfizer-BioNTech for delta variant

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Post by dang »

airhead969 wrote: post #252
samatman wrote: post #127

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Your first sentence contains the kind of abusive language which has no place on this platform. Don't do that here.

I did not mean to offend your delicate pearl-clutchings, white knight defending idiots, that was just a bonus.

We've banned this account for repeatedly breaking the site guidelines and ignoring our requests to stop.

Please don't create accounts to do that with.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Israel data reportedly shows efficacy drop of Pfizer-BioNTech for delta variant

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Post by pumpkinandspice »

taxicabjesus wrote: post #248
pumpkinandspice wrote: post #239

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I don’t think they’re denying that vaccines do not work at all. Have you watched their interviews or listen to their podcasts? They’re quite long but they are challenging the fact that vaccines aren’t the only way out and we need to consider alternatives and one of that alternatives is ivermectin. If you want to reach herd immunity, you want people to get immunity through different means (like getting vaccines and ge…

> one of that alternatives is ivermectin. The old, safe antihistamine/anti-serotonin drug Cyproheptadine is promoted by a few lucid doctors as basically an antidote for the serotonin storm that underlies severe cases of COVID-19. @farid__jalali (tweets are now private, maybe he got tired of harassment?) is one of the major advocates for this treatment strategy. He liked my recent comment about "missing the forest for…

Thanks! I’ve been trying to find a place where people debate and discuss with less rage. Hopefully this is the place. Though I think my upvote is gone haha. I’m interested in learning about your test results!

Re: Israel data reportedly shows efficacy drop of Pfizer-BioNTech for delta variant

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Post by taxicabjesus »

pumpkinandspice wrote: post #255
taxicabjesus wrote: post #248

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> one of that alternatives is ivermectin. The old, safe antihistamine/anti-serotonin drug Cyproheptadine is promoted by a few lucid doctors as basically an antidote for the serotonin storm that underlies severe cases of COVID-19. @farid__jalali (tweets are now private, maybe he got tired of harassment?) is one of the major advocates for this treatment strategy. He liked my recent comment about "missing the forest for…

Thanks! I’ve been trying to find a place where people debate and discuss with less rage. Hopefully this is the place. Though I think my upvote is gone haha. I’m interested in learning about your test results!

I upvoted two of your comments. I think the upvote on your comment above disappeared when I replied to it.

Re: Israel data reportedly shows efficacy drop of Pfizer-BioNTech for delta variant

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Post by pumpkinandspice »

smnrchrds wrote: post #240
pumpkinandspice wrote: post #239

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I don’t think they’re denying that vaccines do not work at all. Have you watched their interviews or listen to their podcasts? They’re quite long but they are challenging the fact that vaccines aren’t the only way out and we need to consider alternatives and one of that alternatives is ivermectin. If you want to reach herd immunity, you want people to get immunity through different means (like getting vaccines and ge…

> I don’t think they’re denying that vaccines do not work at all That's contrary to the message he signal boosts in the first tweet I linked to.

Is it contrary or is he’s saying that ivermectin can be a good alternative to the vaccine? It still doesn’t mean vaccines don’t work, but why not authorize it (especially in places were the cases are high and hospitals are overwhelmed with a vaccine shortage, why not try?). You can skin the cat multiple ways. You’re going to have people who don’t want to take the vaccine or vaccines effectiveness is starting to drop (https://www.google.ca/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/8003930/israe...) and we need to come up with another plan.

Re: Israel data reportedly shows efficacy drop of Pfizer-BioNTech for delta variant

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Post by datameta »

refurb wrote: post #238
datameta wrote: post #226

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The insinuation is that in such a scenario there would be a strong enough disincentive. And perhaps also the incentive of not having a years long pandemic.

Yeah the farmer in SE Asia whose family is starving because he can’t get to market will certainly not try and break any rules. Love these solution designed by people who work from home.

Food distribution certainly falls under essential services. Pharmacies, too. But not much else is absolutely necessary.

Re: Israel data reportedly shows efficacy drop of Pfizer-BioNTech for delta variant

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Post by datameta »

nradov wrote: post #230
datameta wrote: post #226

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The insinuation is that in such a scenario there would be a strong enough disincentive. And perhaps also the incentive of not having a years long pandemic.

What is a strong enough disincentive? Would you recommend building physical walls along our borders and using violence against people who attempt to cross without authorization?

No, I wouldn't. Gosh, and if I didn't respond it would almost look like I did support that wouldn't it? Toss out these cheap tactics...

There are obviously many levels on the spectrum of what could be done to sufficiently increase compliance without falling back on martial law and giving the governments more reason to erode our freedoms.

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