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Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night
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#382Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you know what the euphemistic justification was? “Cleanliness”? I cannot think of one that is not absurd to even the dimmest ethno-nationalist of my imagination.
If I had to guess they'd just say the beard is a symbol of separatism, therefore if you refuse to shave then we might consider you to be sympathetic to the separatist movement, you wouldn't want us to think that, would you? It's circular logic but probably good enough for the fascists...
> It's circular logic but probably good enough for the fascists...
Er, fascists? We're talking about the CCP here -- these are communists.
Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night
#383Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Western concept of freedom in many western tradition definitely assumes that the person exercising the freedom knows what is best for them. Actually, this is how we in the West operatively define utility, not as what you actively need but as what you think you need. Which as the OP underlined is exactly why advertising for example in the Western economic tradition brings positive utility, because we assume that p…
> No matter how you get around it, as long as you have property you are doomed to live a subordinate life unless you're very lucky. I would be curious to hear an elaboration this point.
1. Humans require natural resources to survive
2. All private property that can be claimed will be claimed before you are born
3. You are now reliant on someone else's private property to survive, creating a relation of subordination.
So, unless you own enough wealth to live passively from, you will have to subordinate to someone else to survive. And empirically, this is true, the vast majority of people need a job, and where I live employment relationships are legally relationships of subordination (French civil law), in the rest of the world it's not de jure but still de facto.
Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night
#384Earlier quoted context omitted.
Certainly, the actual act of being visited by your government is something that wouldn't happen in the US. The difference is that of intent. The US government isn't fine with you protesting because they respect your right to threaten the power of the interests they represent, it's because they know that your protest will do literally nothing to threaten them. Wheras in China, the government is much more susceptible t…
In your view, protest never leads to change in America? In your view, citizens of the US never visit or are visited by agents of some level of government? In your view, the US government is not the collection of disparate power bases we see but actually a hidden monolithic “they,” with a discrete “intent” that is a composition of unspecified but doubtless nefarious interest groups? In your view, China’s government is…
Protest can lead to change in America, but before it does the American intelligence system starts visiting and assassinating people. This is well documented.
The US government is a collection of a few, not that many, disparate power bases that nonetheless have extreme similarities. Which is why, for example, COINTELPRO was a bipartisan effort.
The Chinese government is absolutely susceptible to radical change because of organized protest. Not peaceful, because violence would get involved, but the disintegration can be put into gear as a result of peaceful protest. I don't see why this is absurd, it happened to the USSR that had a political system that is identical to China.
And yes, the Chinese tyranny is honest, they tell you upfront that they will suppress protest as long as it threatens a few key points, and they generally stick to it.
The American local and federal governments have never done radical reforms without violence or the threat of violence. I don't see prohibition as a radical reform, and neither is the relatively inconsequent expansions of minority rights except for the 60s and 70s, which definitely involved the threat of violence.
I'm not claiming that no change can be done from popular will - neither in the US nor in China, though more can be done in the US. I'm claiming that radical change that threaten the shared interests of the power base will, in both cases, be opposed by lethal force. And they will.
And no, this isn't limited to single protestors. The US National Guard has opened fire and bombed whole crowds in the beginning of the 20th century when organized labour was a threat, and figureheads of protests were and almost definitely still are subjected to intense surveillance and often threats or even actual violence - it's absolutely not a single protestor that is effected, it's everyone in the US.
But yes, if you state the assertions without the necessary nuance they sound absurd. This is a discussion that requires a lot of nuance and it would be nice if we could steelman each other.
Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night
#385Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I had to guess they'd just say the beard is a symbol of separatism, therefore if you refuse to shave then we might consider you to be sympathetic to the separatist movement, you wouldn't want us to think that, would you? It's circular logic but probably good enough for the fascists...
> It's circular logic but probably good enough for the fascists... Er, fascists? We're talking about the CCP here -- these are communists.
Geez, serves me right for using an "-ist" word and getting an anal retentive "They're a different sort of '-ist'" comment.
The Wikipedia definition "Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy" seems to tick all the boxes in the case of China, although I don't know if they fit the definition "far right" (too lazy to see if they tick those other boxes).
The problem with "-ist" and "-ism" words is everyone has their own definition what this means. Bernie Sanders can call himself a socialist that thinks the rich should be taxed more, and some dumbass will think he hates Jews because the Nazi party also has the word "Socialism" in it.
Also, if you want to say "They're communists because that word is in their party name", then the Democratic People's Republic of (North) Korea must be a great place to live, since they're democratic, and belong to the people!
Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night
#386Earlier quoted context omitted.
If there are multiple kids, it is clearly more risky to walk them through a busy parking lot. Edit. For those interested in the risk analysis side: “ On average, 38 children under the age of 15 die each year from heatstroke after being left in a vehicle. Nearly every state has experienced at least one death since 1998. In both 2018 and 2019 a record number of 53 children died after being left in a hot vehicle.” .. “…
Well first risk analysis doesn't work like that. Second leaving ur kids unsupervised in a car is illegal in most states here. Hell in most states it's legal for me to break your car window if you do that to a freaking dog. so yea ur so wrong I'm pretty sure you're trolling us.
It’s clearly safer to leave a group of kids in the car with the air conditioning running while they are on their iPads for seven minutes then it is to bring them all through parking lots, regardless of how the media has distorted the risk of this situation ( Extreme cases are usually the result of drug addiction).
Totally not trolling, just pushing back against media misinformation.
Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night
#387Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not the first time. All smartfones have a microfone and a camera. And if you think that they are used only for making pictures and talking on the phone - dream on.
Don’t you think someone — possibly a user of this site — would have noticed the network traffic? Not only are you implying that there is a back door in the phone operating systems, but also in every other device on the same network as the phone to hide such traffic. What you’re suggesting is certainly possible , but the idea that it’s been rolled out to the average person doesn’t seem likely.
Don’t you think someone — possibly a user of this site — would have noticed the network traffic?
I notice a lot of network traffic coming from my phone to *.googleapis.com network endpoints, even when I'm not using my phone. So I'm not sure what point you're trying to make?
Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night
#388>2018 >wake up feeling sick after a late night of playing video games >excited to play some halo infinite >"xbox on" >"XBOX ON" >"Please verify that you are "annon332" by saying Doritos™ Dew™ it right!" >"ERROR! Please drink a verification can" >reach into my Dontos Mountain Halo War Chest >only a few cans left, needed to verify 14 times last night >still feeling sick from the 14 >force it down and grumble out "mmmm…
Who would have thought a greentext would be so on-point.
Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night
#389Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Chinese corporations [are an] extension of the Chinese state The Chinese state defines Chinese laws so this is basically restating the GP's point that "Tencent is doing this to comply to Chinese laws" It's technically true for American corporations (which follow American laws created by the American government), but as you mention, it's not quite the same because the American system of government has significantly…
national security letters and secret courts have no inertia and need no bipartisan consensus. the political theatre is only when they don't want to do something and delay. the state is swift with pursuing its interests.
> national security letters and secret courts have no inertia and need no bipartisan consensus.
I would argue these have already met overwhelming bipartisan consensus over the past few decades (particularly since 9/11). Your average privacy nut (myself included) are not too happy about it, your average person knows nothing about it, but your average senator or governor is strongly in favor.
Americans quite like out-of-sight out-of-mind solutions to problems involving Bad People, even unsavory solutions like mass spying or drone killings. The moment that the national security powers for example start blocking porn or video games, consensus and acceptance would instantly disappear.
Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night
#390Earlier quoted context omitted.
If there are multiple kids, it is clearly more risky to walk them through a busy parking lot. Edit. For those interested in the risk analysis side: “ On average, 38 children under the age of 15 die each year from heatstroke after being left in a vehicle. Nearly every state has experienced at least one death since 1998. In both 2018 and 2019 a record number of 53 children died after being left in a hot vehicle.” .. “…
Nothing to do with risk, everything to do with supervision. A person sees a child in a car alone, they don't create a risk assessment with instant access to available stats in their brain. They see a child alone and immediately think 'where are their parents?'. When you see those horror stories in the news a person's first thought is 'where are their parents?'. Regardless of the overall risk, people will always ask '…
"Acceptable in the wider community" is a fairly poor standard to go on. Hitting your child with a belt was acceptable until recently (and still is, in many places).
It's only in the past 15 years that our histrionic society has decided that in all instances, without exception, that leaving your children unsupervised in a car is attempted murder.
My parents used to leave me in the car from time to time, they always made sure the window was cracked, the car was out of direct sunlight, and the sunshade was put on the windscreen. On the other hand, the thing that came closest to killing me (multiple times) was traffic.
That said, here in Australia, apparently parents leaving their kids in the car while they go to the pub to play pokies (slot machines) is enough of a problem that venues have signs reminding people not to leave children in cars. The pub round the corner from my place even has a kids playground, which I suspect was put in to stop parents leaving their kids in the car.