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Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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>2018

>wake up feeling sick after a late night of playing video games

>excited to play some halo infinite

>"xbox on"

>"XBOX ON"

>"Please verify that you are "annon332" by saying Doritos™ Dew™ it right!"

>"ERROR! Please drink a verification can"

>reach into my Dontos Mountain Halo War Chest

>only a few cans left, needed to verify 14 times last night

>still feeling sick from the 14

>force it down and grumble out "mmmm that really hit the spot"

>xbox does nothing

>i attempt to smile

>"Connecting to verification server"

>"Verification complete!"

>finally

>boot up halo infinite

>finding multiplayer match...

>"ERRORI User attempting to steal online gameplay!"

>my mother just walked in the room

>"Adding another user to your pass, this will be charged to your credit card. Do you accept?"

>"No!"

>"Console entering lock state!"

>"to unlock drink verification can"

>last can

>"WARNING, OUT OF VERIFICATION CANS, an order has been shipped and charged to your credit card"

>drink half the can, oh god im going to be sick

>pour the last half out the window

>"PIRACY DETECTED! PLEASE COMPLETE THIS ADVERTISEMENT TO CONTINUE"

>the mountain dew ad plays

>i have to dance for it

>feeling so sick

>makes me sing along

>dancing and singing

>"mountain dew is for me and you"

>throw up on my self

>throw up on my tv and entertainment system

>router shorts

>"ERROR NO CONNECTION! XBOX SHUTTING OFF"

Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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The chinese app wechat already does this in private homes for the purpose of enforcing KYC and "misinformation tracking" - you are required to repeat after it, repeat every phoneme/syllable to form a voiceprint (and coincidentally enough to basically train something to replicate your speech), look straight ahead, rotate around your head, and follow its instructions to sign in again. Also, asking two verified-ID mainl…

As privacy invading it is, I can easily see how this would be effective means to curb bad behavior online, such as trolling or spamming—or worse.

> As privacy invading it is, I can easily see how this would be effective means to curb bad behavior online, such as trolling or spamming—or worse.

I'm not so sure about that, reading Facebook comment threads on news articles clearly shows that a real name policy isn't really stopping people from misbehaving online.

Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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This verification process exists in Europe as well (it's called liveness verification), example: https://www.jumio.com/technology/live-detection/

The technology exists, right. But have you experienced it anywhere outside of China? I, for one, have not (at least in the UE). I strongly believe that the average western customer is not be willing to go through such a process.

I've signed up for several bank accounts lately (due to the 85k insurance limit on UK banks). All of them had this "liveness verification".

I think it's actually a legal requirement in the UK if they wish to allow you to sign up online.

Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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post #262
post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The chinese app wechat already does this in private homes for the purpose of enforcing KYC and "misinformation tracking" - you are required to repeat after it, repeat every phoneme/syllable to form a voiceprint (and coincidentally enough to basically train something to replicate your speech), look straight ahead, rotate around your head, and follow its instructions to sign in again. Also, asking two verified-ID mainl…

As privacy invading it is, I can easily see how this would be effective means to curb bad behavior online, such as trolling or spamming—or worse.

That can already be done through paid accounts and moderation. There is zero excuse for this level of privacy invasion.

Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The technology exists, right. But have you experienced it anywhere outside of China? I, for one, have not (at least in the UE). I strongly believe that the average western customer is not be willing to go through such a process.

Yep, in the UK. My solicitor required it for kyc for a house purchase during the pandemic

Nice. Mine required me to send them certified originals and a handwritten declaration through the post.

Seems I need a more tech-savvy solicitor...

Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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This is I believe the first time in human history that AI video cameras have been widely deployed, inside private homes, for the purpose of enforcing laws. Never mind the banal details: this is an incredible milestone.

The word "incredible" usually has a positive connotation, of something impressive being achieved that benefits society. Those case is incredible, but has such severe privacy concerns that there is no such positive effect present. AI has a great deal of promise if used responsibly, but gross invasion of privacy shows promise of a different kind. This is a horrific milestone.

Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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post #262
post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The chinese app wechat already does this in private homes for the purpose of enforcing KYC and "misinformation tracking" - you are required to repeat after it, repeat every phoneme/syllable to form a voiceprint (and coincidentally enough to basically train something to replicate your speech), look straight ahead, rotate around your head, and follow its instructions to sign in again. Also, asking two verified-ID mainl…

As privacy invading it is, I can easily see how this would be effective means to curb bad behavior online, such as trolling or spamming—or worse.

Hahahahahaha, I'm sorry. This is a ridiculous take. It sounds as if you are justifying handing over your entire digital identity, which includes given someone so much information about yourself that you could be easily impersonated, is justifiable because it will cut down on online trolling? Not to mention, you are giving all of this information to a regime that regularly "disappears" people for dissenting stances, and is actually running literal concentration camps.

Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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They wish to completely eradicate all Uyghur culture. "One China" means one Han race and culture.

There are very few countries worldwide that can look through their history and not find a single culture that has been eliminated or at least marginalized.

There are very few countries worldwide actually presently engaged in attempting to eliminate an entire culture.

Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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Governments exist to provide public goods. One such public good is protecting private citizens from having their rights violated by other parties, through a national defense system and a justice system. A collection of people not providing you with games on your terms is not a violation of your rights. You siccing the government on them is a violation of their right to choose for themselves what to work on and on wha…

So if all food companies decided to slightly poison all the food that people can buy. The government should not intervene at all? After all A collection of people not providing you with food on your terms is not a violation of your rights right?

How is that at all comparable to this situation? That is putting in toxic ingredients that the buyer is not informed about. That's false advertising, fraud and criminal negligence. This is a company offering a game with terms of services clearly spelled out to you, with you free to accept or reject their offer with full knowledge of what they are offering.

>>A collection of people not providing you with food on your terms is not a violation of your rights right?

It is not a violation of my rights, but what you described is not that. That would be like if food providers all decided to offer food that is slightly poisoned, and disclosed that the food had been slightly poisoned. You would then have a choice to either take your chances on producing your own food, or taking their poisoned food.

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