What really happened to Jack Ma?
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What really happened to Jack Ma?
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Re: What really happened to Jack Ma?
#2- note that the official investigation meeting (before he disappeared for 3 months) had state officials from 4 different state departments in one meeting, meaning it was highly choreographed by the CCP
- Xi announced more hands-on CCP oversight for all companies in 2020 after a few decades of Wild West-style capitalism. The point of temporary capitalism was to grow the Chinese economy to a Western standard and avoid Soviet-style economic stagnation, which ultimately made the USSR non-viable. Then control and suppress the economoy going forward.
- Xi had himself declared dictator for life, well, to be exactly that. He doesn't need industry titans distracting the population, or leaving him in the shade. There can be only one.
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#3This is an interesting read - I didn’t know how unsubstantiated a lot of the “sightings” of Jack were… was dumb of him to say what he did, but doesn’t warrant the apparent mistreatment
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#4>>>“I am puzzled. I don’t know why the press is not more curious about these very curious little stray sightings and a short video clip and nobody speaking for attribution.”
Come one, are you really puzzled..... Follow the Money...
US Media (and they are Media not journalists) is a for-profit business tied to entertainment, we have seen all manner of entertainment from movies to sports bow to the directives of China. Why does anyone believe the "news" media would be any different than these other entertainment outlets?
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#5One thing that you learn quickly when traveling the world is how easily one can go from having a good time with your friends, to being in a shitty prison without food, running water or a phone to let your family know if you are dead or alive.
I have friends travel to interesting places during times of (relative) stability. To paraphrase one of the guys that I know: "When you travel in some of these places, you exist at that time and place, not because you belong there or have a right to be there, but because nobody has decided you shouldn't."
I have always kept that in the back of my mind when traveling, even in places that I would consider first-world. It is certainly something that I would keep in the forefront of my mind if I lived or worked in a place like CN. It is always interesting to watch people who push the boundary, become emboldened and forget that they aren't the ones making the decision for their fates.
I have always thought of CN as one of those countries that wants all the benefits of a western society, with expectations that people will conform, with an implicit "or else".
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#6It's very likely he can be detained, and let go out with some minders.
Just sending him to Gulag would be too much of a bombshell even today, so they perpetuate his "semi-imprisonment" just to not let out people thoughts that capitalism is done for in China.
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#7- note that the official investigation meeting (before he disappeared for 3 months) had state officials from 4 different state departments in one meeting, meaning it was highly choreographed by the CCP - Xi announced more hands-on CCP oversight for all companies in 2020 after a few decades of Wild West-style capitalism. The point of temporary capitalism was to grow the Chinese economy to a Western standard and avoid…
> Xi announced more hands-on CCP oversight for all companies in 2020 after a few decades of Wild West-style capitalism.
I don't understand why this considered by some communists as "impure". The communist manifesto does talk about capitalism first and then use the generated wealth for communism.
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#8Interesting that this bubbled up this week--China is cracking down on Didi over "security concerns" within a week of it IPOing on a US exchange.
This should be pretty embarrassing, so if Didi had legitimate security issues, the CCP would have kept it quiet and gotten it fixed quietly. I think this is to send a message, but I'm not sure to whom.
Re: What really happened to Jack Ma?
#9Interesting that this bubbled up this week--China is cracking down on Didi over "security concerns" within a week of it IPOing on a US exchange. This should be pretty embarrassing, so if Didi had legitimate security issues, the CCP would have kept it quiet and gotten it fixed quietly. I think this is to send a message, but I'm not sure to whom.
> I think this is to send a message, but I'm not sure to whom.
Could just be a general message to anyone who doesn’t scratch the right backs.
Re: What really happened to Jack Ma?
#10- note that the official investigation meeting (before he disappeared for 3 months) had state officials from 4 different state departments in one meeting, meaning it was highly choreographed by the CCP - Xi announced more hands-on CCP oversight for all companies in 2020 after a few decades of Wild West-style capitalism. The point of temporary capitalism was to grow the Chinese economy to a Western standard and avoid…
> Xi announced more hands-on CCP oversight for all companies in 2020 after a few decades of Wild West-style capitalism. I don't understand why this considered by some communists as "impure". The communist manifesto does talk about capitalism first and then use the generated wealth for communism.
What does communism have to do with the Chinese Communist Party?