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Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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ev1 wrote: post #101
perihelions wrote: post #31

This is I believe the first time in human history that AI video cameras have been widely deployed, inside private homes, for the purpose of enforcing laws. Never mind the banal details: this is an incredible milestone.

The chinese app wechat already does this in private homes for the purpose of enforcing KYC and "misinformation tracking" - you are required to repeat after it, repeat every phoneme/syllable to form a voiceprint (and coincidentally enough to basically train something to replicate your speech), look straight ahead, rotate around your head, and follow its instructions to sign in again. Also, asking two verified-ID mainl…

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Post by egeozcan »

AussieWog93 wrote: post #121
fridif wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

draw on a fake beard ERROR: CANNOT BEGIN PLAY SESSION UNTIL PLAYER SHAVES FACE

>ERROR: CANNOT BEGIN PLAY SESSION UNTIL PLAYER SHAVES FACE I know you're joking, but a law was passed in Xinjiang back in 2014 preventing people with beards from riding public transport. You literally had to shave before you could board a bus.

Why? Was it an anti-Muslim thing? Disgusting anyways.

Putting the discrimination aside (well that sounded insensitive but bear with me), very sorry for those poor people who are like me, who get a red face for DAYS after shaving.

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Post by hulitu »

perihelions wrote: post #31

This is I believe the first time in human history that AI video cameras have been widely deployed, inside private homes, for the purpose of enforcing laws. Never mind the banal details: this is an incredible milestone.

It's not the first time. All smartfones have a microfone and a camera. And if you think that they are used only for making pictures and talking on the phone - dream on.

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Post by sunshineforever »

Uehreka wrote: post #76
underseacables wrote: post #56

As I read this the first thought that came to mind is if I were a kid, I would be very angry about it, and dedicate myself to defeating the system. I can’t help but hope the kids playing these games feel the same way.

The problem is that then the CCP won’t respond with “Oh no! They circumvented our invasive measures!” They’ll say “Hmm, they circumvented our invasive measures, I guess we’ll need even more invasive measures that are harder to circumvent.” This isn’t a game kids are gonna be able to win if the government is sufficiently committed to this goal.

If I was a Chinese kid I'd be making a plaster of paris of my dad/mom and learning to mimic their voice.

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Post by hobofan »

throwaway744678 wrote: post #124
rvnx wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This verification process exists in Europe as well (it's called liveness verification), example: https://www.jumio.com/technology/live-detection/

The technology exists, right. But have you experienced it anywhere outside of China? I, for one, have not (at least in the UE). I strongly believe that the average western customer is not be willing to go through such a process.

Basically every modern "mobile-first" bank/stock brokerage app, etc. is built on that. With a lot of them there is still a human in the process giving you the instructions (usually from a call center), but it's gradually shifting to tech-only solutions.

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Post by AussieWog93 »

anonymousacc1 wrote: post #114

Here we see an article in which a tech company is using AI in order to protect people from addiction. And we have the Western free-speech aficionados complaining about surveillance while their society is practically crumbling due to the freedom inherent in it (read drug abuse, social media addiction, sex, alcohol and porn addiction). They couldn't get themselves to wear simple masks during covid because of a requirem…

I was born and raised in the West and can't help but agree with you.

"Freedom" as a universal, sacred concept is incompatible with psychologically validated, focus group tested mass marketing, let alone the individually tailored ML stuff that has started to come along in the past 10 years.

If anything, Government power needs to be expanded to combat corporate/political/media special interests. Not arbitrarily, of course, but it might be prudent to expand their power in a way that acts in the public interest - such as increased funding to public broadcasters or independent media watchdogs that can actually enforce journalistic standards with fines.

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Post by mytailorisrich »

softwaredoug wrote: post #37

Obviously there’s cultural factors at play, I just wonder whether strategically it’s wise to teach kids externally imposed restrictions rather than learning to restrict themselves intrinsically because something else is worth doing? It’s kind of the metaphor of the kid with the very strict upbringing that has no self control when they move away from their family.

Education of children involves both.

"Externally imposed restrictions" is what parents and society do. Then, internalising and understanding these restrictions is part of the education process.

Children are told not to spend too much time gaming by their parents (hopefully) and said parents also impose restrictions when this is not so (hopefully), for instance.

Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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Post by AussieWog93 »

egeozcan wrote: post #132
AussieWog93 wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>ERROR: CANNOT BEGIN PLAY SESSION UNTIL PLAYER SHAVES FACE I know you're joking, but a law was passed in Xinjiang back in 2014 preventing people with beards from riding public transport. You literally had to shave before you could board a bus.

Why? Was it an anti-Muslim thing? Disgusting anyways. Putting the discrimination aside (well that sounded insensitive but bear with me), very sorry for those poor people who are like me, who get a red face for DAYS after shaving.

>Was it an anti-Muslim thing?

Officially, no. But in reality, yes. They want to make the Uyghurs more Han to reduce feelings of separatism.

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Post by jamil7 »

throwaway744678 wrote: post #124
rvnx wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This verification process exists in Europe as well (it's called liveness verification), example: https://www.jumio.com/technology/live-detection/

The technology exists, right. But have you experienced it anywhere outside of China? I, for one, have not (at least in the UE). I strongly believe that the average western customer is not be willing to go through such a process.

Most (all maybe?) of the new German banks and fintech products seem to offer it as they have no physical branches, you can often open accounts directly from your smartphone. Some will offer a way of identifying yourself via a post office with your passport too.
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