Indian Official Puts Public Webcam in Government office

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Post by wicknicks » Mon, Jul 18, 2011, 8:25 AM UTC

Indian Official Puts Public Webcam in Government office
nytimes.com

Re: Indian Official Puts Public Webcam in Government office

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Post by tdrgabi » Mon, Jul 18, 2011, 10:52 AM UTC

It's just a trick to boost his "anti corruption" image, I presume.

You don't get bribes in the office, in a clear, visible way. It's sent through intermediaries, persons he trust. And even if you want to pay him in the office, which is never done, you could slip the money among papers or in so many ways which are not caught on camera.

I don't understand what we should expect to see. A person who offers a big pack of money or a suitcase filled with dollars?

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Post by shareme » Mon, Jul 18, 2011, 10:57 AM UTC

tdrgabi wrote: post #2

It's just a trick to boost his "anti corruption" image, I presume. You don't get bribes in the office, in a clear, visible way. It's sent through intermediaries, persons he trust. And even if you want to pay him in the office, which is never done, you could slip the money among papers or in so many ways which are not caught on camera. I don't understand what we should expect to see. A person who offers a big pack of…

It is similar to cheating in US colleges..nay idiot can copy/paste an assignment...the real cheaters are getting grades nto earned through other means than having an assignment copied/pasted..

Re: Indian Official Puts Public Webcam in Government office

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Post by kakashi_ » Mon, Jul 18, 2011, 11:03 AM UTC

tdrgabi wrote: post #2

It's just a trick to boost his "anti corruption" image, I presume. You don't get bribes in the office, in a clear, visible way. It's sent through intermediaries, persons he trust. And even if you want to pay him in the office, which is never done, you could slip the money among papers or in so many ways which are not caught on camera. I don't understand what we should expect to see. A person who offers a big pack of…

You don't get the whole point of it.

In India, it is known that officials in the government slack during office hours. Delaying of process for unworthy reasons. Numerous time-breaks and other infinite 'small' but aggregatively deterrent forms of behaviours in the office.

The camera moves the whole system a step forward. Transparency is more easily perceivable to the public now. The necessity of a sting operation in the office does not emerge. People can have a fresh perspective on the laws for the government officials.

Psychologically, this might build a better work environment. It has been shown that adding monitoring video cameras does add a certain form of placebo effect.

I hope the 'mantra' should be improvement, no matter how small it is. A complete revamp of the system is more like dreaming about humans taking over all the nine(eight eh?) planets, and that too in an year.

Re: Indian Official Puts Public Webcam in Government office

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Post by bxc » Mon, Jul 18, 2011, 11:07 AM UTC

although there's more to the story, the headline itself sounds so 1990s. (soon you'll even be able to order pizza online!)

Re: Indian Official Puts Public Webcam in Government office

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Post by GiraffeNecktie » Mon, Jul 18, 2011, 11:18 AM UTC

kakashi_ wrote: post #4

tdrgabi wrote: post #2

It's just a trick to boost his "anti corruption" image, I presume. You don't get bribes in the office, in a clear, visible way. It's sent through intermediaries, persons he trust. And even if you want to pay him in the office, which is never done, you could slip the money among papers or in so many ways which are not caught on camera. I don't understand what we should expect to see. A person who offers a big pack of…

You don't get the whole point of it. In India, it is known that officials in the government slack during office hours. Delaying of process for unworthy reasons. Numerous time-breaks and other infinite 'small' but aggregatively deterrent forms of behaviours in the office. The camera moves the whole system a step forward. Transparency is more easily perceivable to the public now. The necessity of a sting operation in t…

"In India, it is known that officials in the government slack during office hours."

It's been known to happen in North America too. :)

Re: Indian Official Puts Public Webcam in Government office

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Post by sharmajai » Mon, Jul 18, 2011, 11:32 AM UTC

tdrgabi wrote: post #2

It's just a trick to boost his "anti corruption" image, I presume. You don't get bribes in the office, in a clear, visible way. It's sent through intermediaries, persons he trust. And even if you want to pay him in the office, which is never done, you could slip the money among papers or in so many ways which are not caught on camera. I don't understand what we should expect to see. A person who offers a big pack of…

Why so critical, even if it is just for offices it makes a huge difference to the ease of taking/offering bribe, simply because of the knowledge that you are being watched. That is why we have surveillance cameras in offices.

Even if it is for the image of the official, it's a good start, if you don't agree at least give another solution, or stop being critical.

Re: Indian Official Puts Public Webcam in Government office

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jul 18, 2011, 11:35 AM UTC

bxc wrote: post #5

although there's more to the story, the headline itself sounds so 1990s. (soon you'll even be able to order pizza online!)

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Re: Indian Official Puts Public Webcam in Government office

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Post by rrrazdan » Mon, Jul 18, 2011, 11:43 AM UTC

The point is that its not any official but a Chief Minister( akin to Governor in the US) that is doing this. The message that he is putting across to all other Government officials is much more important than us being able to see if he is slacking off or not.

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Post by xiaoqmasww » Mon, Jul 18, 2011, 11:57 AM UTC

tdrgabi wrote: post #2

It's just a trick to boost his "anti corruption" image, I presume. You don't get bribes in the office, in a clear, visible way. It's sent through intermediaries, persons he trust. And even if you want to pay him in the office, which is never done, you could slip the money among papers or in so many ways which are not caught on camera. I don't understand what we should expect to see. A person who offers a big pack of…

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