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Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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Post by an_opabinia »

SN76477 wrote: post #55
noduerme wrote: post #43

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I had no idea such laws existed. That's pretty crazy. But then, this is a gov't that does not trust its citizens to raise their own children, or even historically to decide how many kids to have. When I was a kid in America, my parents disallowed videogames in the house. No NES or Genesis for us. On the occasions I'd go over to other kids' houses and play, I had no idea what I was doing. On the one hand, this seemed…

I never understand to what end. Is it simply power? What is the point of it? You cannot crime or human behavior to misbehave. I wonder how long it will be until China's citizens start to crack under the pressure.

The people living there want this. People in the Soviet Union believed in a lot of ineffective things too. If opposing viewpoints were better accepted there would be no restrictions. People aren’t stupid, the system just ill informs them.

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Post by FalconSensei »

enjoylife wrote: post #58
Sr_developer wrote: post #45

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Like young people in America aged 16-21 who cannot buy alcohol legally in the US? That seems pretty totalitarian and paternalistic from outside the US

In a car centric environment such as the US, there is a large burden society pays for when it comes to under age drunk driving. The harm from a car related fatality is felt immediately. It’s hard to compare that to the delayed and difficult to measure societal impact when kids play too much video games.

Would make more sense to also not be able to drive until 18/21

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Post by gentleman11 »

rococode wrote: post #23

For context, these are China's current restrictions on gaming for minors (under age 18): - Maximum 1.5 hours of gaming on weekdays - Maximum 3 hours of gaming on weekends - No games between 10pm and 8am (note that school typically starts between 7 and 8am) South Korea has similar types of restrictions, by the way. No gaming for minors (under 16) between midnight and 6am. I think Vietnam may have something similar as…

The backdrop to this is how unbelievably predatory f2p East Asian games are when it comes to slot machine mechanics and whale hunting. Most adults in Japan, I read, think of video games as if they are the same as casino games. It wasn’t until 10 years ago that the west really got on that bandwagon, but now I think we’re leaders in this. Eg, blizzard switching f2p games with loot boxes so heavily, and aiming to make a new Diablo as a mobile game

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Post by gentleman11 »

perihelions wrote: post #31

This is I believe the first time in human history that AI video cameras have been widely deployed, inside private homes, for the purpose of enforcing laws. Never mind the banal details: this is an incredible milestone.

This company has a stake in many American companies. How chilling

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Post by baffythegoat »

derefr wrote: post #71
toomuchtodo wrote: post #69

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Re-educate.

I think the GP comment meant, like, low-functioning autistic people. Not people who won’t conform; people who cannot . People who do not have the mental capacity to grasp and conform to social norms. I don’t think China is sending such people to re-education camps. Those camps don’t have the infrastructure required to care for such people. They only really “work” as an oubliette for able-bodied/able-minded people tha…

Do you think a totalitarian state makes that distinction? They are not known for their sensitivity. I would imagine they are simply dispensed with.

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Post by eloisius »

This is clearly (at least to the Western sensibilities) a vast government overreach into private life, but can we marvel for a second at a company employing AI to curb addictive behavior towards its product? I definitely don't agree with the government mandates dictating how and when you can play video games, but it is kind of incredible to see a company use AI for something other than encouraging addictive behavior like many US tech companies do.

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Post by x081ia2939 »

What worries me is that this is at odds with Tencent's revenue model. How likely it is it that this was planned all along? Would it be possible that it's just the first step (nobody would argue about "protecting" children) to more invasive surveillance?

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Post by nefitty »

derefr wrote: post #71
toomuchtodo wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Re-educate.

I think the GP comment meant, like, low-functioning autistic people. Not people who won’t conform; people who cannot . People who do not have the mental capacity to grasp and conform to social norms. I don’t think China is sending such people to re-education camps. Those camps don’t have the infrastructure required to care for such people. They only really “work” as an oubliette for able-bodied/able-minded people tha…

It would take me some time to dive into the prevalence of abusive “therapies” or what every day life is for autistic people in China. I did find this report about a rehabilitation center that forces autistic children to walk 19km (12 miles) per day as part of their treatment. It gained notoriety after a 3-year old died while in the center.

https://www.sixthtone.com/news/811/toddler-jia-jias-death-hi...

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Post by HeavenFox »

jbluepolarbear wrote: post #67
HeavenFox wrote: post #61

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It is cultural. In Confucianism, the relationship between a father and a son, a superior and their subordinate, a state and its citizen are considered equal. Therefore it is considered normal for the state to be paternalistic. Also, collective responsibility takes precedence over individual freedom. Each person is supposed to conform to its role in society. Children’s role is to study, rather than play video games al…

What do they do to people that can’t conform?

About ten to fifteen years ago, “Internet addiction” was perceived to be a big problem among the youth in China. Kids would skip school and play video games in Internet cafes.

Someone opened an “Internet addiction treatment center”. Parents would pay to send their kids there, where they are deprived of their freedom, be indoctrinated about their “sins”, and even subject to electric shock. [1]

The state official television network, CCTV, aired a documentary endorsing the practice.

I am not making this up.

Obviously nobody cares about this anymore because literally everyone is an Internet addict.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Yongxin#Internet_addictio...

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