Apple Reportedly Storing over 8M Terabytes of iCloud Data on Google Servers

Post by cunthorpe » Tue, Jul 06, 2021, 8:12 AM UTC

kondro wrote: post #76

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I don't think you can do the full device backup on anything but icloud and I agree that should change but your own storage has the same access as google does on ios. You can have your own photos app which automatically uploads everything in the photo roll and can delete photos to keep them in sync with your cloud.

You can absolutely do a full device backup on any computer via Finder on Mac and iTunes on Windows.

Post by zaphirplane » Tue, Jul 06, 2021, 8:15 AM UTC

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Why would Google even attempt to spy on those patterns? it serves no purpose and how do you justify employee time spent for such useless things? Not to mention apple proxies all requests through their servers rendering such analysis utterly useless to begin with.

On one occasion the traffic to google cloud is systematically not proxied: every time one sends an attachment in iMessage, the file (or the media) is encrypted on device and sent to gcs-{eu,us,asia}-00002(?).content-storage-upload.googleapis.com, received from gcs-{eu,us,asia}-00002(?).content-storage-download.googleapis.com This should be pretty visible to Google, the rest of the traffic is handled better.

Post by helsinkiandrew » Tue, Jul 06, 2021, 8:21 AM UTC

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It still puzzles me that people just can't understand the the huge chasm between storing and using peoples data from their own products and stealing data from other companies thats stored on your systems in the hope that one day it can be decrypted and used to improve ads. Google is a huge company, the idea that it would set out to do something that everyone involved in would know is directly breaking the law (rather…

I mean, there’s these posts on Hacker News claiming to be from former AWS employees saying they stole customer data to launch competing services: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23929959 There’s also mainstream reporting that Amazon employees used retail sales data to launch competing products: https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-scooped-up-data-from-its... Maybe the first story is fake and the second is real… b…

Post by fouc » Tue, Jul 06, 2021, 8:32 AM UTC

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All the data is encrypted so it doesn’t matter where they are storing it. Using multiple service providers (Google, Amazon, their own servers, etc) might actually be beneficial because it eliminates one point of failure, especially if they replicate data in a smart way to take advantage of it. It might also speed up access to data.

Unless you have encryption that is guaranteed to never be obsolete it ALWAYS matters where you store the data.

Post by paganel » Tue, Jul 06, 2021, 8:39 AM UTC

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I'm not sure why people are are thinking in such a limited fashion. Google is effectively holding onto the data for the US government or whoever else has the capability to access all that data in the future. This is the kind of stuff authoritarian governments dream about. And I'm not saying Google is doing it intentionally, just that they're holding onto the data at all and at some point there will be somebody who wi…

If that is the argument, does it matter whether it is Apple or Google who is holding the physical data? Apple and Google are both based in the US and beholden to the US government, so from the government's perspective it's just a change of address when they send out a warrant.