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Apple Reportedly Storing over 8M Terabytes of iCloud Data on Google Servers

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Re: Apple Reportedly Storing over 8M Terabytes of iCloud Data on Google Servers

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Unless you have encryption that is guaranteed to never be obsolete it ALWAYS matters where you store the data.

It does seem likely that Google will pay to store every bit of encrypted customer data that is currently stored forever because potentially decades from now it could be cracked and they could access all that amazing ancient private information.

its it really going to be 'amazing' if the information is a decade or more old?

Re: Apple Reportedly Storing over 8M Terabytes of iCloud Data on Google Servers

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Petabytes is a common unit for company scale data but I guess people reading random tech news aren't familiar with it yet. It's also way beyond what we use in other units. Gigalitre is the biggest SI prefix I have seen outside of bytes.

Petagrams (Pg) is commonly used in climate science. I always wondered why they don’t write it as Gt instead. But gigalitre? Surely, calling them cubic kilometres (edit: should be hm³, see followup comments) would be preferable?

No, a gigalitre equals a cubic hectometer.

Re: Apple Reportedly Storing over 8M Terabytes of iCloud Data on Google Servers

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post #88

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Petagrams (Pg) is commonly used in climate science. I always wondered why they don’t write it as Gt instead. But gigalitre? Surely, calling them cubic kilometres (edit: should be hm³, see followup comments) would be preferable?

No, a gigalitre equals a cubic hectometer.

Oops, you’re right. I think I accidentally squared 1000 instead of cubing it when converting between km³ and m³. Which only goes to show why units can be hard. In the interest of using coherent units, I wish there were a named unit equalling one cubic metre, all the better for attaching prefixes to.

Re: Apple Reportedly Storing over 8M Terabytes of iCloud Data on Google Servers

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people deal with social media images and text more often than buying hard drives -- and that's (generally) handled in kilobytes. my take : it's because numbers with lots of digits sell clicks easier -- up until scientific notation is needed, and then at that point the general readership can't fathom the number and generally doesn't care. in other words, I bet 8,000,000 terabytes produces more clicks than '8 exabytes'…

How about "8 station wagons full of tapes"?

Ireland covered in 3.5’’ HD floppy disks.

Re: Apple Reportedly Storing over 8M Terabytes of iCloud Data on Google Servers

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How much would you pay to store such amount data? 8TB hard drive is about 200 dollars nowadays, so this amount of data is about 200m dollars worthy of retail hard drives. Ofc the calculation is super inaccurate, which doesn't take redundancies into consideration, and discounted prices for someone like Google to purchase hardware, plus the discount for Apple as a big customer. But had the scale be comparable, in which…

Edit: I did this calculation for the Dropbox migration out of S3 in this blog post: http://blog.drgriffin.com.au/posts/2020-06-21-the-three-fs-o...

Short answer: The cost of just the hard drives to replace an $89MM S3 storage bill was about $45 million dollars. That's not including bandwidth, racks, datacenter space, administration etc etc.

Re: Apple Reportedly Storing over 8M Terabytes of iCloud Data on Google Servers

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post #88

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Petabytes is a common unit for company scale data but I guess people reading random tech news aren't familiar with it yet. It's also way beyond what we use in other units. Gigalitre is the biggest SI prefix I have seen outside of bytes.

Petagrams (Pg) is commonly used in climate science. I always wondered why they don’t write it as Gt instead. But gigalitre? Surely, calling them cubic kilometres (edit: should be hm³, see followup comments) would be preferable?

One of my favourite SI units that is used in climate science is the Sverdrup, often used to describe oceanic or river flows, which is a million cubic metres per second, or one cubic hectometer per second. (1)

(1) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sverdrup

Re: Apple Reportedly Storing over 8M Terabytes of iCloud Data on Google Servers

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I’m only here because I don’t understand why you would say 8 million terabytes instead of 8 exabytes.

Same reason for we say 1000 km instead of 1 Mm, or Sun to Earth 150 M km instead of 150 Gm. Some units are usual in some contexts, some are not. In one word, habits.

I've been trying to spread the use of megametre as a common distance unit. I think it's very appropriate to talk about distances between large cities.

Re: Apple Reportedly Storing over 8M Terabytes of iCloud Data on Google Servers

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« Their own HW » is in fact « their users devices »

Nope, its Apple servers. User devices don’t connect directly to Google

This is not entirely true. Additionally Apple proxies traffic to GCP but key management still resides on user devices.

Re: Apple Reportedly Storing over 8M Terabytes of iCloud Data on Google Servers

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I guess 8 exabytes doesn't get the same number of clicks Edit: Not really trying to be facetious, but come on. Apple using a lot of storage at a lot of places isn't too surprising

Terabyte might be the largest unit people can relate to at a personal level.
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