Apple Reportedly Storing over 8M Terabytes of iCloud Data on Google Servers

Post by omegalulw » Tue, Jul 06, 2021, 4:37 AM UTC

ben-gy wrote: post #13

ACAVJW4H wrote: post #4

Apple and Google need to give people a chance to manage their own data.

I disagree - the average person is not capable of securely managing their own data, which is why they pick a consumer brand like Apple to do it for them - providing an option to do so would likely result in significant exposure of personal data at significant scale from botched DIY attempts. To test this theory, simply ask an average iPhone or Android user what encryption is. What you are saying here is the equivalen…

Post by acomjean » Tue, Jul 06, 2021, 4:40 AM UTC

SilverRed wrote: post #36

cunthorpe wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can’t do backup or sync the Photos.app to a random cloud. The “integration” here is just that occasionally you can save to and load from your server. That’s all.

I don't think you can do the full device backup on anything but icloud and I agree that should change but your own storage has the same access as google does on ios. You can have your own photos app which automatically uploads everything in the photo roll and can delete photos to keep them in sync with your cloud.

Post by peter422 » Tue, Jul 06, 2021, 4:45 AM UTC

suifbwish wrote: post #42

cadence- wrote: post #8

All the data is encrypted so it doesn’t matter where they are storing it. Using multiple service providers (Google, Amazon, their own servers, etc) might actually be beneficial because it eliminates one point of failure, especially if they replicate data in a smart way to take advantage of it. It might also speed up access to data.

Unless you have encryption that is guaranteed to never be obsolete it ALWAYS matters where you store the data.

Post by gentleman11 » Tue, Jul 06, 2021, 4:45 AM UTC

adt2bt wrote: post #10

It’s a bit of an open secret among big tech that Apple is a huge user of storage on all major clouds. They manage encryption on their hardware and in return get cheap storage, higher availability and competition from their suppliers. Highly doubt Google has access to any iCloud data other than an estimate of the immense size of the service.

Post by manigandham » Tue, Jul 06, 2021, 4:46 AM UTC

fulafel wrote: post #40

adt2bt wrote: post #10

It’s a bit of an open secret among big tech that Apple is a huge user of storage on all major clouds. They manage encryption on their hardware and in return get cheap storage, higher availability and competition from their suppliers. Highly doubt Google has access to any iCloud data other than an estimate of the immense size of the service.

> Highly doubt Google has access to any iCloud data other than an estimate of the immense size of the service. They do of course have access to the ciphertext and access to traffic patterns, in crypto threat models traffic analysis tells the adversary a wealth of information.