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Ask HN: How to deal with ADHD without meds?

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Re: Ask HN: How to deal with ADHD without meds?

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Start a journal. Track diet, lifestyle and ADHD issues.

Go looking for studies. Years ago, there were studies showing that nutritional supplements were more effective than meds to help kids calm down and focus.

IIRC, calcium and B vitamins were some of the recommended supplements. (Edit: don't take my word for that. Instead, use that as a jumping off point to find studies and track your own issues and draw your own conclusions about what works for you as an individual.)

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with ADHD without meds?

#43

You could try self medicating with nicotine. Everything else I would write is covered by annie_muss, particularly acceptance and being realistic. I wasted years torturing myself with a cycle of thinking I should be able to push through it and focus if only I tried hard enough, failing and getting depressed, bludging, repeat. Now that I’m medicated I’ve still got a strong aversion to trying that I have to deal with.

Trouble staying awake? Try meth! Please don’t recommend people develop expensive habits to dangerous addictive chemicals.

Of course a measured amount of daily meth will probably save this person’s sanity but because we live in the world we do nobody can recommend it without fear. Fuck the authorities and just buy the medicine you need

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with ADHD without meds?

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This mindset is awful. You don’t fix a problem by creating 5 more. This mindset creates bad code, kills people, and rots the planet. I really can’t wrap my mind around someone suggesting a drug addiction (that leads to cancer) to remedy a mental disorder. It’s just plain malicious. If somebody is opening their mind to help, you have a responsibility as someone of greater knowledge to steer them in the right direction…

Here's something that might be interesting to you: you can consume nicotine without smoking cigarettes or even inhalation, and in that context, the harms of nicotine are negligible. Check out this cool write-up: https://www.gwern.net/Nicotine

That's the article I'd come across in the past that made me think of it as a possible adhd med.

I think one thing to keep in mind is that Gwern is evaluating it for much more minimal use than you would try to treat adhd with. Iirc he was using it to try to build an exercise habit. So the addiction risks are going to be much higher than what he portrays them as.

Still better than untreated adhd though.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with ADHD without meds?

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I was diagnosed as a 30 year-old. Here are some things that might help. * Accept it and be realistic about it. ADHD is a disorder. There is no cure. Don't expect it to go away or for you some system, drug or technique to reduce it to zero. There are no silver bullets * Forgive yourself. Getting worked up about the disorder only causes more pain, anger and stress. You are not lazy. * Address any other mental health pr…

Does cutting back on caffeine help you? Or does caffeine help?

I've never been a coffee drinker, but I drink one or two cups of tea a day. Maybe it helps a tiny bit, but I haven't really noticed.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with ADHD without meds?

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Trouble staying awake? Try meth! Please don’t recommend people develop expensive habits to dangerous addictive chemicals.

- Funny you should bring it up, meth is actually a rarely prescribed but very effective adhd medication. There are genuinely doctors and patients deciding that meth is preferable to untreated adhd. I didn’t recommend it because my experience with countries lacking adhd meds is they’re strict on drugs with harsh drug laws, which now that I’m thinking more about it isn’t necessarily OPs situation. OP if nicotine doesn’…

Is meth ever safe? I think Carheart says it’s one of those drugs that can’t be refined enough to be safe at any dose/use.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with ADHD without meds?

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1. Go run. Start with short distances, then build up. Exercise daily. 2. Eat healthy food - think plant-based. Stay away from sugar. Don't lean on caffeine. 3. Control your environment: sound, light, temperature adjust these until it feels right. 4. Stay away from toxic people who will take advantage of you. This might mean "family & friends". 5. Foster your own curiosity. 6. Your ability to focus, aptitude for patte…

For me, it’s walking that I can do. My joints scream too loudly with any amount of running. Long cardio is excellent for obliterating sideline thoughts though. (Probably any amount of cardio, but an hour and a half walk or more really zaps the mind.)

Absolutely. A good walk (or run) is a great path to clarity and focus
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