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Re: Audacity 3.0 called spyware over data collection changes by new owner

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It's not called a spyware, it turned into a spyware after acquisition

Who would aquire a piece of pretty niche software to use strategically as a spying platform? Is the information that can be gained really worth that much?

The fact that it was a reliable offline piece of FOSS software key for so many workflows, browser-extension much?

Re: Audacity 3.0 called spyware over data collection changes by new owner

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Browser extensions with 10k users are routinely acquired as a "spying platform".

I thought that browser extensions were more valuable as a code/ads/whatever injection tool in the users page ?

Which is perfect for creating "spying platform".

Re: Audacity 3.0 called spyware over data collection changes by new owner

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It's not called a spyware, it turned into a spyware after acquisition

Who would aquire a piece of pretty niche software to use strategically as a spying platform? Is the information that can be gained really worth that much?

I don't think it's that "niche", actually.

At least from my anecdata, a lot of people who want to do some basic sound editing without buying an audio editor (those are often quite expensive) at least try using Audacity at some point.

Re: Audacity 3.0 called spyware over data collection changes by new owner

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the argument is that things like Firefox need to share some data with third parties to function correctly. The remote web server needs to know what page you want, your login details etc. That's not to say there's other things that Firefox does that isn't privacy focused, but it's accepted that Firefox has to share some data at some point to function. Audacity, however, doesn't. It's a standalone application.…

What the GP was saying was that there was no essential technical reason for Firefox to send telemetry data to Mozilla (unless you're connecting to Mozilla). And yet, Firefox does this: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/telemetry-clientid

1) that's whataboutism 2) people complain about Firefox as well and many are avoiding Firefox as a result, blocking Firefox's connection to Mozilla with various tools, etc.

Re: Audacity 3.0 called spyware over data collection changes by new owner

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the argument is that things like Firefox need to share some data with third parties to function correctly. The remote web server needs to know what page you want, your login details etc. That's not to say there's other things that Firefox does that isn't privacy focused, but it's accepted that Firefox has to share some data at some point to function. Audacity, however, doesn't. It's a standalone application.…

What the GP was saying was that there was no essential technical reason for Firefox to send telemetry data to Mozilla (unless you're connecting to Mozilla). And yet, Firefox does this: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/telemetry-clientid

Yes, and I agreed with that in my comment. My point is that the software already hands out some data by its core function, so users are generally accepting of losing a little more data as long as it seems reasonable.

It's the psychology of "well, it's already sharing some data. what's the harm in a little more?" There will always be people that want minimal data sharing, and I'm one of them, but the vocal minority are exactly that - the minority. The majority of users don't actually care, which is why the data harvesting industry is as big as it is - plenty of data out there to harvest.

Re: Audacity 3.0 called spyware over data collection changes by new owner

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What the GP was saying was that there was no essential technical reason for Firefox to send telemetry data to Mozilla (unless you're connecting to Mozilla). And yet, Firefox does this: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/telemetry-clientid

1) that's whataboutism 2) people complain about Firefox as well and many are avoiding Firefox as a result, blocking Firefox's connection to Mozilla with various tools, etc.

> people complain about Firefox as well

Not nearly as vehemently as with Audacity.

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