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Re: Stockfish 14

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That’s amazing. NNUE has been a boon for stockfish as it enabled it to find complicated ideas even on low depths, which are often more interesting than simple tactical perfection. Really excited to see stockfish 14.

Re: Stockfish 14

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Translation: Alpha Zero, we're ready for a rematch!

Alph zero/mu at similar computation resources was weaker for a while iirc.

Right, my recollection is that stockfish + nnue has been stronger than leela since stockfish 13, and leela is stronger than A0.

Re: Stockfish 14

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alph zero/mu at similar computation resources was weaker for a while iirc.

Right, my recollection is that stockfish + nnue has been stronger than leela since stockfish 13, and leela is stronger than A0.

Isn't the difference though, that Leela is a pure RL implementation whereas NNUE/SF still uses some tablebase stuff?

Re: Stockfish 14

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I see that, like ed(1), stockfish is generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm the novice with verbosity.

  $ ./stockfish_14_x64_bmi2 
  Stockfish 14 by the Stockfish developers (see AUTHORS file)
  help
  Unknown command: help
  ?
  Unknown command: ?
  eat flaming death
  Unknown command: eat flaming death

Re: Stockfish 14

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, my recollection is that stockfish + nnue has been stronger than leela since stockfish 13, and leela is stronger than A0.

Isn't the difference though, that Leela is a pure RL implementation whereas NNUE/SF still uses some tablebase stuff?

No, NNUE doesn't necessarily need tablebases and Leela uses tablebases too. The difference is that their network architecture are different and their search algos are different.

Re: Stockfish 14

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, my recollection is that stockfish + nnue has been stronger than leela since stockfish 13, and leela is stronger than A0.

Isn't the difference though, that Leela is a pure RL implementation whereas NNUE/SF still uses some tablebase stuff?

Leela uses mcts, sf does not. SF also trains on human positions, while I think Leela is self play only.

Re: Stockfish 14

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post #7

I see that, like ed(1), stockfish is generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm the novice with verbosity. $ ./stockfish_14_x64_bmi2 Stockfish 14 by the Stockfish developers (see AUTHORS file) help Unknown command: help ? Unknown command: ? eat flaming death Unknown command: eat flaming death

I suppose you can interact with stockfish by hand, but it is designed to plug into a chess board app like xboard or others: https://www.gnu.org/software/xboard/
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