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Almost certainly not. The genome is not the only information you need. You also need the gestation environment. It’s kind of like trying to compile gcc from source without a working gcc.
What a great analogy!
Thanks.
One man’s plan to resurrect the animal species we can’t save
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Re: One man’s plan to resurrect the animal species we can’t save
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Does it, though? I'm not religious myself (agnostic comes close-ish), but I would think, based on the evidence I'm aware of, that there must be an important function that spirituality and religion fulfill, especially to people not living in a 21st century first world society. After all, up until very, very, very recently, every group, society, people we today have any knowledge of, in every remote corner of the plane…
What you're describing can be replaced with philosophy. Believing, being indifferent, and or not believing in God isn't destructive. Religion is what's destructive if you examine what has happened to the natives, LGBTQ+ persons, disabled persons and anyone else throughout history that didn't fit the cult model of religion.
Humans are perfectly capable of performing horrific acts at a massive scale without religion.
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#53With regards to Murkas Gem, the cloned horse, I'm kind of surprised that anyone is surprised that he's shorter than the original horse. When you geld a horse at the correct time, they often end up bigger than they would have if left a stallion.
I think it happens in quite a few species as the growth plates stay open longer. I’ve seen some Castrated male cows get very tall. I’m not sure the author knew much about horses as they kept referring to them as race horses. Gem Twist was a Show jumper. Cloned horses are banned from racing and race horses from using AI for that matter.
Re: One man’s plan to resurrect the animal species we can’t save
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The Bootstrappable Builds folks are working on building an entire Linux distro, including GCC, starting at around 512 bytes of machine code, plus all the source code. I think they have had some success already: https://bootstrappable.org/ https://github.com/fosslinux/live-bootstrap/blob/master/part... https://github.com/oriansj/talk-notes/blob/master/live-boots...
Do those 512 bytes include the signed shim from Microsoft for Secure Boot?
The signed shim itself is orders of magnitude larger than 512 bytes, not to mention the firmware that starts shim.
I don't think the Bootstrappable Builds folks are interested in touching proprietary software/firmware, so it is likely they would not be using UEFI or similar.
Re: One man’s plan to resurrect the animal species we can’t save
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What you're describing can be replaced with philosophy. Believing, being indifferent, and or not believing in God isn't destructive. Religion is what's destructive if you examine what has happened to the natives, LGBTQ+ persons, disabled persons and anyone else throughout history that didn't fit the cult model of religion.
Humans are perfectly capable of performing horrific acts at a massive scale without religion.
That's just a rhetoric that attempts to dismiss religion from being bad throughout history towards minorities. Yes, we should all just sit back and not acknowledge truth because humans can be bad by other ways.
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Humans are perfectly capable of performing horrific acts at a massive scale without religion.
That's just a rhetoric that attempts to dismiss religion from being bad throughout history towards minorities. Yes, we should all just sit back and not acknowledge truth because humans can be bad by other ways.
It’s not rhetoric, and stating all religions are bad isn’t even the truth.
Some of the most committed against slavery were its religious opponents, for instance: http://web.tricolib.brynmawr.edu/speccoll/quakersandslavery/...
If you want to discuss the evils of politicized religion, or state mandated religion then I’m all ears.
But religion is a convenient scapegoat for more simple truth: Without fail every movement, party, or group that gains influence sooner or later overreaches and becomes the oppressor.
Religion is a red herring.
Re: One man’s plan to resurrect the animal species we can’t save
#57With regards to Murkas Gem, the cloned horse, I'm kind of surprised that anyone is surprised that he's shorter than the original horse. When you geld a horse at the correct time, they often end up bigger than they would have if left a stallion.
I think it happens in quite a few species as the growth plates stay open longer. I’ve seen some Castrated male cows get very tall. I’m not sure the author knew much about horses as they kept referring to them as race horses. Gem Twist was a Show jumper. Cloned horses are banned from racing and race horses from using AI for that matter.
I guess that's the weirdest part. The guy that referred to Gem Twist as a racehorse does artificial insemination for horses as a profession. So the basis of his career is horse breeding. He conflates racing and show jumping and either doesn't happen to mention the most obvious explanation for the size difference or is not familiar enough with horses to be aware of it. I believe I was 12 when I learned that a gelded horse tends to grow bigger than they would if they were left a stud. I honestly googled it to make sure it's not just one of those things that everyone "knows" that has no basis in fact. Difference in feed is another likely explanation that wasn't even mentioned. Why would you go to the size of the dam and the length of gestation when there's two obvious possibilities that are common knowledge to anyone who has horse experience? The quote makes it seem like it's some kind of surprise that genetics isn't the only contributor to size, but anyone who has any horse experience can tell you there's a number of other factors that determine adult size.
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That's just a rhetoric that attempts to dismiss religion from being bad throughout history towards minorities. Yes, we should all just sit back and not acknowledge truth because humans can be bad by other ways.
It’s not rhetoric, and stating all religions are bad isn’t even the truth. Some of the most committed against slavery were its religious opponents, for instance: http://web.tricolib.brynmawr.edu/speccoll/quakersandslavery/... If you want to discuss the evils of politicized religion, or state mandated religion then I’m all ears. But religion is a convenient scapegoat for more simple truth: Without fail every movement,…
I'm all ears as well but all you wrote is nonsense.
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It’s not rhetoric, and stating all religions are bad isn’t even the truth. Some of the most committed against slavery were its religious opponents, for instance: http://web.tricolib.brynmawr.edu/speccoll/quakersandslavery/... If you want to discuss the evils of politicized religion, or state mandated religion then I’m all ears. But religion is a convenient scapegoat for more simple truth: Without fail every movement,…
I'm all ears as well but all you wrote is nonsense.
> all you wrote is nonsense.
Meaning you disagree, but you're neither willing to discuss, nor to "agree to disagree"?
I didn't catch anything overly uncivil in GP's answer, and they did present arguments and clarify their position, so I'd say this kind of reaction isn't warranted. I also don't think this extremely shallow dismissal does your views and opinions justice, but if you're not willing to engage in open-minded discussion, why not say nothing at all?
Re: One man’s plan to resurrect the animal species we can’t save
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We have no idea how the artificial womb should look like. It's basically the idea that we want to bake a cake, we have the recipe but don't know the kind of oven we need, nor the temperature, and only have a vague idea of how the result should look like. We may get a cake by trial and error, but it's not guaranteed.
See it there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk0RZgDOkgM
That is a fetus brought to term, between an embryo and a fetus there is a lot of conceptual space. This premature fetuses are basically fully formed creatures but small, we have no idea how to do the first part.
Also again: we're doing this looking at a working plan, it's different from guessing how one for an extinct animal may look like.