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Digital Violence: How the NSO Group Enables State Terror

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Re: Digital Violence: How the NSO Group Enables State Terror

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https://thenextweb.com/news/kashmirs-police-want-people-to-r... And more news like this. I have been told by a WhatsApp admin who runs a news group how the police took his mobile phone and returned it back after some time and he has been warned multiple times to not post any news critical to india. I believe they install this nso spyware or something similar on their phones so they get to know what is spreading and w…

Your friend should consider that device compromised and get a new one

Not the freshest chip in the package eh?

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Is it me or this website is unusable with slightly restrictive javascript policies? My fans start screaming, i'm getting disfunctional menus at the bottom and a scroller at the top. I deactivated decentraleyes and umatrix, only thing is ublock and my restrictive firefox base profile.

So I’m not sure what I’m supposed to be seeing on my iPhone but all I get is black background and the hint of fancy animation effects that I’m not following. Is there a transcript or something?

Re: Digital Violence: How the NSO Group Enables State Terror

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Have said before that the economics for companies like NSO are favorable because countries and regimes with resource wealth, who do not need to maintain a sophisticated civil service to stay in power, need the technical capability that such a platform provides. Companies like this provide that. It's a domestic spy agency as a service.

Awful? Absolutely, but I'd argue these objections reduce to "interception capabilities for me and not for thee," as western domestic spy agencies can just send a fax to your telco and get the same access. That is, the U.S. doesn't need NSO because it has the FISA stamp pad.

I'm very much a privacy advocate who has in one way or another worked closely to the key surveillance issues of the day for years, and so to defend NSO at all feels absurd, but the devil must be given his due.

Sure, NSO and the former HackingTeam and even Stratfor were great activist targets, but from the perspective of a state or a regime who buys an NSO-like service, N-GO's are just another foreign funded operator fighting a proxy war for policy leverege on behalf of their home governments and companies. They aren't secular colonial missionaries, (or perhaps, that's precisely what they are) they're running a playbook[1].

It's hard to separate NSO from Israeli policy because of how close their industry and military are linked, but I also think the objections to Israel's involvement itself reduce to how it is the last new free and independent nation state in a time where the nation state as thing itself is being wound up by the very class of academics/NGO's who militate against Israel's sovereignty. The academic/NGO anti-Israel thing has a lot of old entrenched anti-semitism, but the most reliable filter to identify what bothers them about Israel's involvement in this platform is NGOs are motivated by academic anti-sovereignty. These spy agencies as a service like NSO provide sovereignty to unfavorable countries, and Israel benefits strategically from preserving the sovereignty of nation states, no matter how repugnant. That's a painful steelman argument to make on behalf of the very abusive surveillance I have worked personally in my career to prevent, but when I see what amounts to selective privacy astroturfing using artists I like as propaganda mascots, the whole thing leaves a bad taste.

The skepticism I had with the university affiliated project that first uncovered Pegasus was they seemed really interested in foreign abuses but had not done anything on domestic surveillance issues, or even investigated those countries' influence on their own, which made them a para-governmental org using the cover of a loosely academic NGO to play spy games. To me the whole enterprise is seedy.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Dictatorship-Democracy-Gene-Sharp/dp/...

Re: Digital Violence: How the NSO Group Enables State Terror

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your friend should consider that device compromised and get a new one

Not the freshest chip in the package eh?

it happens. i have people tell me "why not use a vpn". https://scroll.in/article/952355/vpn-for-terrorism-in-kashmi...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-kashmir-internet-id...

i have friends who have been pulled from a public bus, their phones checked and one guy was beaten for having a vpn app and another one was forced to show his whatsapp when they proceeded to beat him for having "incendiary content". basically photos and memes critical of government

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Is it me or this website is unusable with slightly restrictive javascript policies? My fans start screaming, i'm getting disfunctional menus at the bottom and a scroller at the top. I deactivated decentraleyes and umatrix, only thing is ublock and my restrictive firefox base profile.

You are not alone. I gave up after a while thinking «this is probably worth reading - too bad the publishers chose to make it so hard to read”.

This is kind of stupid.

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Is it me or this website is unusable with slightly restrictive javascript policies? My fans start screaming, i'm getting disfunctional menus at the bottom and a scroller at the top. I deactivated decentraleyes and umatrix, only thing is ublock and my restrictive firefox base profile.

You are not alone. I gave up after a while thinking «this is probably worth reading - too bad the publishers chose to make it so hard to read”. This is kind of stupid.

Agreed, very counterproductive to their mission.

I was able to get the site functioning with uMatrix still operating by using the vertical three dot menu and disabling referer spoofing. Even then it wasn't clear how to get to the content, since all that shows is a huge map with a timeline of events.

Re: Digital Violence: How the NSO Group Enables State Terror

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the freshest chip in the package eh?

it happens. i have people tell me "why not use a vpn". https://scroll.in/article/952355/vpn-for-terrorism-in-kashmi... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-kashmir-internet-id... i have friends who have been pulled from a public bus, their phones checked and one guy was beaten for having a vpn app and another one was forced to show his whatsapp when they proceeded to beat him for having "incendiary content". basi…

How active is the armed resistance in Srinagar today?
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