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Why not géstate in some sort of artificial womb?
>artificial womb? Because such a thing is non-trivial to invent and does not yet exist.
So it's not "almost certainly not" it's "we have a long way to go".
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>artificial womb? Because such a thing is non-trivial to invent and does not yet exist.
So it's not "almost certainly not" it's "we have a long way to go".
>So it's not "almost certainly not" it's "we have a long way to go".
Says you. Are you a subject matter expert?
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Why not géstate in some sort of artificial womb?
>artificial womb? Because such a thing is non-trivial to invent and does not yet exist.
Instead of artificial womb, I'd imagine a natural womb of its closest extant relative may suffice. Sort of like how a horse can gestate a zebra embryo, but imagine the zebra was extinct.
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#15>It’s been hit twice on the flank with tranquiliser darts >He kneels next to the elephant and hooks its penis into a device that looks like a huge condom. A conservationist inserts a probe that emits small electrical shocks to stimulate the elephant’s prostate in a process known as electroejaculation. If a human standard was applied it could be described as drugging and sexually assaulting an elephant! A noble goal h…
"A noble goal however, the planets biodiversity is in a death spiral."
Except man.
And it's sacreligious, especially here, to even talk about people having less kids.
"The economic system counts on babies, and we need more!" which I have heard here so many times.
I don't want to debate. I'm a nobody. I just think there are too many people on this planet, and we are ruining it for the rest of the animals.
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>artificial womb? Because such a thing is non-trivial to invent and does not yet exist.
Instead of artificial womb, I'd imagine a natural womb of its closest extant relative may suffice. Sort of like how a horse can gestate a zebra embryo, but imagine the zebra was extinct.
They tried to "respawn" wooly mammoths in an elephant womb but it didn't work.
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>So it's not "almost certainly not" it's "we have a long way to go". Says you. Are you a subject matter expert?
No, says you. > non-trivial > does not yet exist
The fact that artificial wombs do not currently exist should be evidence enough that they are non-trivial to invent and perfect.
One cannot substitute confidence for domain expertise.
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No, says you. > non-trivial > does not yet exist
The fact that artificial wombs do not currently exist should be evidence enough that they are non-trivial to invent and perfect. One cannot substitute confidence for domain expertise.
No idea what you're talking about. You said yourself it's non-trivial and we aren't there yet. So "some day it might be possible" seems reasonable, not "almost certainly not".
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Almost certainly not. The genome is not the only information you need. You also need the gestation environment. It’s kind of like trying to compile gcc from source without a working gcc.
Why not géstate in some sort of artificial womb?
We have no idea how the artificial womb should look like.
It's basically the idea that we want to bake a cake, we have the recipe but don't know the kind of oven we need, nor the temperature, and only have a vague idea of how the result should look like.
We may get a cake by trial and error, but it's not guaranteed.
Re: One man’s plan to resurrect the animal species we can’t save
#20>It’s been hit twice on the flank with tranquiliser darts >He kneels next to the elephant and hooks its penis into a device that looks like a huge condom. A conservationist inserts a probe that emits small electrical shocks to stimulate the elephant’s prostate in a process known as electroejaculation. If a human standard was applied it could be described as drugging and sexually assaulting an elephant! A noble goal h…
"A noble goal however, the planets biodiversity is in a death spiral." Except man. And it's sacreligious, especially here, to even talk about people having less kids. "The economic system counts on babies, and we need more!" which I have heard here so many times. I don't want to debate. I'm a nobody. I just think there are too many people on this planet, and we are ruining it for the rest of the animals.
> And it's sacreligious, especially here, to even talk about people having less kids.
Population growth is declining in rich countries already, and in many middle-income ones.
We don't have to convince people to have less kids as they already do if they're wealthy, educated and their kids don't die.