The Metaverse: A brave, new virtual world

jerf wrote: post #4

Alright, I smell a submarine PR campaign here. Who's trying to make "metaverse" happen and why? Some initial suggestions: https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4803:l4... https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4803:l4... https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4803:l4... Although they could just be people trying to get ahead of the curve.

Too late.

Re: The Metaverse: A brave, new virtual world

#6

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jul 03, 2021, 9:58 PM UTC

[deleted]

Re: The Metaverse: A brave, new virtual world

#7

Post by Animats » Sat, Jul 03, 2021, 10:12 PM UTC

jerf wrote: post #4

Alright, I smell a submarine PR campaign here. Who's trying to make "metaverse" happen and why? Some initial suggestions: https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4803:l4... https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4803:l4... https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4803:l4... Although they could just be people trying to get ahead of the curve.

There's a huge effort to hype NFTs in "the metaverse". They need excessive hype, because the dirty little secret of crypto based metaverses is that nobody uses them.

Decentraland concurrent user count link: [1] 252 right now.

Sominium Space concurrent user count link: [2] 25 right now.

Yes, the user counts really are that tiny. Both have been live for more than a year, so it's not that they're new.

Somebody just paid almost a million dollars for a plot of land in Decentraland. Sotheby's has an outlet there. But nobody goes there.

The real metaverses are Roblox (about 1.8 million concurrent users today), Second Life (about 50,000) and VRChat (about 17,000). Maybe IMVU, but haven't found numbers for them. Fortnite is even bigger, but is more game than metaverse. The big ambitions outlined by Epic's CEO have not yet materialized.

[1] https://catalyst-monitor.vercel.app/

[2] https://somniumspace.com/parcel/4326?elv=0

Re: The Metaverse: A brave, new virtual world

#8

Post by kaetemi » Sat, Jul 03, 2021, 10:32 PM UTC

Any commercial company building a "metaverse" will to some extent just end up with another walled garden. Which, I suppose, goes against the ideals of a metaverse.

Only a fully open source project could give the freedom to do anything in a virtual world. Something you can run yourself, fully modify, and connect to others. Then again, open source gaming isn't a very big scene. Something usable on this scale seems unlikely for now.

So... commercial virtual spaces it'll end up being. Enjoy your ads.

Re: The Metaverse: A brave, new virtual world

#9

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jul 03, 2021, 10:33 PM UTC

titzer wrote: post #3

After you upload your brain, how do you pay them to keep running you?

[deleted]

Re: The Metaverse: A brave, new virtual world

#10

Post by fastball » Sat, Jul 03, 2021, 10:37 PM UTC

kaetemi wrote: post #8

Any commercial company building a "metaverse" will to some extent just end up with another walled garden. Which, I suppose, goes against the ideals of a metaverse. Only a fully open source project could give the freedom to do anything in a virtual world. Something you can run yourself, fully modify, and connect to others. Then again, open source gaming isn't a very big scene. Something usable on this scale seems unli…

I wouldn't say it needs to be fully open source, it just needs to be federated, like the internet.