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Re: Back to the Future with RSS

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Post by manuelmoreale »

robobro wrote: post #19

I've been writing a decentralized messageboard[0] with some friends lately; the global index and tags have atom feeds, and each thread has an atom feed. There's also an atom feed of recent comments. I've written some simple tools to fake a desktop client for the messageboard and have some of the atom feeds linked to various IRC/matrix rooms. Pretty handy. I wish that all messageboards had RSS feeds for thread lists (…

Not sure if that’s what you’re asking but my personal site does serve content using JSONfeed.

So yes, someone on HN is using it.

Re: Back to the Future with RSS

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Post by hypertele-Xii »

Yaina wrote: post #3

I love RSS, hope it makes a resurgence. But I don't think the only reason for the death of RSS was the discontinuation of Google Reader. RSS can become very messy super quickly, and I think we need clients that don't look like the ones we know from 15 years ago, but ones that help users to keep their subscriptions neat and clean.

I remember when Google Reader shutdown and I was outraged. Found RSSOwl and migrated all subscriptions tediously. Then YouTube shut down its RSS feeds and all I had left was basically slightly smarter bookmarks to a scattering of blogs. Then Firefox removed RSS. At that point, why bother trying anymore?

Entirely replaced by link-voting sites now, like HN.

Re: Back to the Future with RSS

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Post by manuelmoreale »

lanamo wrote: post #21

I am sure that RSS is the way to go, to fight clutter and stay on top of the information noise out there. I love Reeder https://www.reederapp.com - a really good looking and well designed RSS reader. (unfortunately only for the apple eco system).

I’ll second this. Reeder is great and the latest version does let you use iCloud to sync feeds across different devices.

Re: Back to the Future with RSS

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Post by jjav »

smolyeet wrote: post #35
Yaina wrote: post #3

I love RSS, hope it makes a resurgence. But I don't think the only reason for the death of RSS was the discontinuation of Google Reader. RSS can become very messy super quickly, and I think we need clients that don't look like the ones we know from 15 years ago, but ones that help users to keep their subscriptions neat and clean.

I know this is subjective, but it's so hard to find a good rss reader with a modern UI and isn't inexpensive/free

> I know this is subjective, but it's so hard to find a good rss reader with a modern UI and isn't inexpensive/free

To me RSS and the reader are and should be separate.

RSS is the protocol to query and retrieve updated articles. The reader can be anything you like.

Personally I use rss2email for retrieval and my UI is my email app.

Re: Back to the Future with RSS

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Post by nokya »

For those still looking for a standalone RSS reader that can work offline, or if like me your web consumption was fully filtered by FeedReader for years, I can recommend QuiteRSS.

Re: Back to the Future with RSS

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Post by baal80spam »

smolyeet wrote: post #35
Yaina wrote: post #3

I love RSS, hope it makes a resurgence. But I don't think the only reason for the death of RSS was the discontinuation of Google Reader. RSS can become very messy super quickly, and I think we need clients that don't look like the ones we know from 15 years ago, but ones that help users to keep their subscriptions neat and clean.

I know this is subjective, but it's so hard to find a good rss reader with a modern UI and isn't inexpensive/free

Not sure if web reader is OK for you but I've been using FREE tier of Inoreader for over 10 years now. I love it, it does its job and that's what counts.

Re: Back to the Future with RSS

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Post by kickscondor »

zozbot234 wrote: post #7
kickscondor wrote: post #5

If you're interested in furthering RSS (and Atom, JSON Feed) - one way to help this along is to continue extending it to bring it modern. For instance, I've documented an extension for adding temporary 'status' to the feed - useful for pinned posts or broadcasting that a livestream is beginning. https://github.com/kickscondor/fraidycat/wiki/RSS-Atom-Exten... It feels like there is still a lot of room to extend these…

It seems like a weird approach when the ActivityStreams spec is getting a lot more traction and semi-official endorsement.

I don’t enjoy ActivityPub related specs - they give me SOAP vibes - and I’ve struggled with interoperability. (Tried to make my blog act kind of like a Mastodon instance and the learning curve was just way too out there. I’m happy with feeds.)

Re: Back to the Future with RSS

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Post by Black101 »

beagle3 wrote: post #58
Black101 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox dropping RSS is one of their many stupid decisions (it's not like RSS changes a lot and takes a lot of maintenance)... I'm seriously thinking about switching to Otter (installed it today)

Dropping RSS likely didn’t change their declining popularity for better or worse - and that’s the only thing they are worried about right now (and rightly so)

> Dropping RSS likely didn’t change their declining popularity for better or worse

probably not... what did is Google having popups promoting Chrome every time you did a Google search.

Re: Back to the Future with RSS

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Post by bArray »

12ian34 wrote: post #18
onli wrote: post #10

What would it take to get Firefox to support RSS again? With support I mean: 1. To detect RSS feeds and show an icon in the UI 2. Render RSS files, so they look better than raw text 3. Link that UI icon to a subscribe function: Show a configurable list of RSS Readers and send the feed to the subscribe URL of the selected one. This can already be added with extensions, but it would boost RSS adoption if it were a defa…

After a 12 year hiatus I got Thunderbird again and have been enjoying it as both a mail client and RSS reader. Whilst I do miss the Firefox functionality, I'm happy with Thunderbird

Just to warn you, Thunderbird keeps corrupting my RSS feeds and failing to pull them in. I have since switched to Akregator and this is much better.
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