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Tatas to build world's cheapest home for Euro 500

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Re: Tatas to build world's cheapest home for Euro 500

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It's Tata (singular). What a lewd misspelling.

It is very common practice in India to refer to Tata company as Tatas. I guess this is more because the Indians look at them more as a family and less a company. Tata is a family run business with several people having the surname Tata. Hence we call them Tatas. It is not really a grammatical mistake but an colloquial term.

Re: Tatas to build world's cheapest home for Euro 500

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The Tata car is a ridiculous piece of metal that should not be called a car. So I hope the Tata home will be better... Not very optimistic though...

Have driven Tata Nano and must say they put an incredible engineering effort into building that thing. It is a good car for that price.

Re: Tatas to build world's cheapest home for Euro 500

#33
The problem with these projects Tata is taking up is that by tying to gain some press out of these its making these unusable. The cheapest car was advertized as such a lot and so there was a stigma of sorts associated with it. At the end of the day it was not that inexpensive (with added/needed features) but by Nano is now branded as car for the poor and so people are not inclined to buy it.

Re: Tatas to build world's cheapest home for Euro 500

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As with most things coming out of India, I would take this with a grain of salt. There've been promises of things like a $10 laptop and a $35 tablet in the past. When (if ever) they actually materialized, however, the price was either much higher or the quality/features much lower than promised. Relatedly, this is a big difference between India and China. In China, when the CPC decides to do something, it happens, no…

Consider that if you eliminate building codes, sealed windows, and the need for thermal insulation a "house" is trivial and could be made with anything from cement to adobe to some sort of lighter and stronger version of adobe made with modern materials. I visited some houses in Costa Rica that were cinder block structures with corrugated roofs and wide bars for windows (to prevent thieves but not geckos) and these w…

I've been designing a small cheap house which I plan to build spring 2012 (after I get through the year long political process). It has become undeniably clear that building codes in most of the US result in a base cost for a house at at least 20-30k (rural mid-west prices). The laws were designed to keep landlords from renting 'inhumane' conditions, but they are applied even to those building and living in their own homes. In my town, we aren't legally allowed to have multiple homes share a kitchen and bathroom. Kitchens can only be shared by 3 adults. We can't use filtered rain water in our sinks. We can't flush our toilets with shower water (or anything other than potable drinking water). A friend of mine from India says that where he lived it was against code to flush toilets with drinking water.

Re: Tatas to build world's cheapest home for Euro 500

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As with most things coming out of India, I would take this with a grain of salt. There've been promises of things like a $10 laptop and a $35 tablet in the past. When (if ever) they actually materialized, however, the price was either much higher or the quality/features much lower than promised. Relatedly, this is a big difference between India and China. In China, when the CPC decides to do something, it happens, no…

In China, when the CPC decides to do something, it happens, no matter how many heads roll in the process.

Sadly, 'heads rolling' is closer to the truth than you probably meant. Human rights abuses of workers working on state-sponsored public-facing projects is common. :/

Re: Tatas to build world's cheapest home for Euro 500

#37
Price of Land = Value of Developed Parcel To User - Cost of Construction - Legal and Government costs - Any other costs during the development or after the development including Time value of money of property taxes.

This equation holds true in the US, and should hold true in India. The reason for US subsidies is that sometimes, the right side of the equation is still negative because the value to the end user is so low (think section 8 where tenants only have $500/month or less to rent housing, feed their family etc.)

Building a $500 house will only be beneficial to people if the right side of the equation has a value less than 0. If the value of the right hand side of the equation is greater than 0 then the land value simply goes up.

Re: Tatas to build world's cheapest home for Euro 500

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I don't have the link handy, but there was another article as a followup to the $500 house saying the whole thing would hurt more than help. The construction, maint, and customizing of the houses were an important part of the local economy even as depressed as it was.

Re: Tatas to build world's cheapest home for Euro 500

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€500 house sounds like they are monetising the construction of future slums / shanty towns. The Indian government need to get their act together and not leave it up to the private companies to clean up the mess in India. I have spent time in Delhi and what I have seen is shocking. Private companies run taxi services for their workers because it is so unsafe and the government run services are so unreliable that they…

I lived in China for seven years and am two months through a long term trip around India. What you are saying seems true to me. India's problems - aside from population - are government and infrastructural, perhaps reinforced through corruption. The degree to which people study and scrabble for jobs, inventing false specialist vocabularies and constantly one-upping each other in a bid to appear 'educated' or 'successful' is truly saddening... there's seemingly just no other avenue for people to move forward through.

When Indians ask me the difference between China and India, I tell them "China has economic wealth and great infrastructure - India can't flush it's sh*t out of the cities. But India has democracy and is spiritually wealthy."

Re: Tatas to build world's cheapest home for Euro 500

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post #38

I don't have the link handy, but there was another article as a followup to the $500 house saying the whole thing would hurt more than help. The construction, maint, and customizing of the houses were an important part of the local economy even as depressed as it was.

In an Indian context, I don't think it would hurt. Housing is terrible right now and a simple walk around an Indian city shows that conditions have hit rock bottom. Governments in India have been nothing but populist with no vision for the future. The complete lack of urban planning, a sensible government, and the lack of basic necessities is shocking. Despite this most government surveys act like there is nothing wrong.

For a country like India, what the Tatas are doing is simply commendable. They are trying to step in and solve some fundamental problems here and I would like to see them succeed -- if the governments and babus will allow them to.

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