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Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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I wonder if that had anything to do with his pancreatic cancer

I think the actor doing Jobs had some pancreatic problems related to eating like Jobs. Don't quote me on that, please double check.

Ashton Kutcher landed in hospital after following Steve Jobs's fruitarian diet

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/jan/28/ashton-kutcher-...

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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>He might have been aware of when his life would end, since he passed away just one year later," says Ohnishi. "Maybe that's why he chose not to write the whole sentence, and only the first three words." This isnt a popular opinion since HN (and media) tends to deify Jobs, but people forget he died an ignorant death at his own hand. Jobs was diagnosed with a curable cancer and against all reason, he decided eating fr…

I’ve no idea whether or not it’s a popular opinion but seems wholly unnecessary to be posting it on this article unless you have some special insight on Jobs medical records other than public speculation.

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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Not to be meta contrarian but I think everyone understands his pattern of arrogance got the best of him with that fruit based diet from a nutritionist scam. The people that deify him mostly forget that actually running a company like him means requiring a bailout from your primary competitor, which means failure. edit: ok he wasn't there during that time period. A better example would be other areas of arrogance and…

He wasn't even at Apple for the entire decade preceding that bailout. People probably 'forgot' because it's not true at all!

It's the exact opposite of the original comment... without Jobs and his engineering of the bailout from Gates, Apple would've definitely failed!

He was fantastic as a founder and loyal to his original company when the path of least resistance would've been totally different.

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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I didn't realize that this was actually real. I love fruit but I feel like all of the sugar would hurt me if it were the only thing that I ate.

I wonder if that had anything to do with his pancreatic cancer

Likely. It probaby wasn't the only thing though. The high amounts of sugar, weird fasting habits, drug use, extreme stress he put himself in, and his arrogance in ignoring sound medical advice might have all helped do him in from what I gleaned from his biography. His pancreas could only take so much apparently.

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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The Ryokan that they mention he always stayed at is apparently very good: https://www.annees-de-pelerinage.com/tawaraya-ryokan-review-... "Concierge service at the breakfast table is good, but the story goes on. On my way out one of the porters silently approached me and said: “Schwarze-sama, we checked the weather forecast and there will be rain this evening. So here is an umbrella to take along. Also, we took the l…

That article is a bit silly. While I'm sure it's nice, this is not one of the high-end ryokans in Kyoto, and by no means is it "the best hotel in Japan" (I lived in Kyoto, and have been there many times). Reading the reviews, it mainly sounds small and difficult to book, and it has a cult reputation.

I was actually a little surprised Jobs stayed there, given that there are really high-end places where dignitaries and utra-rich people tend to stay. This particular place is not in a fancy or scenic area, though it is in a very convenient location, very near Teramachi, Sanjo, Kiyamachi, etc. Many of the elite ryokans are further out in more scenic areas (in Arashiyama, for example).

The service standard in Japan is quite high, so pretty much any mid-range ryokan will provide an umbrella or making reservations for you. And if you're an internationally famous billionaire...

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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>He might have been aware of when his life would end, since he passed away just one year later," says Ohnishi. "Maybe that's why he chose not to write the whole sentence, and only the first three words." This isnt a popular opinion since HN (and media) tends to deify Jobs, but people forget he died an ignorant death at his own hand. Jobs was diagnosed with a curable cancer and against all reason, he decided eating fr…

This is an extremely binary way of thinking

You're saying it has to be one or the other:

A) Against all reason, Jobs decided eating fruit would solve his curable cancer, or B) Jobs has some deep philosophical ponderance of the human condition or introspection on his own mortality

Why can't it be both? Humans are notoriously inconsistent

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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He was actually fruititarian, for most of his life.

I didn't realize that this was actually real. I love fruit but I feel like all of the sugar would hurt me if it were the only thing that I ate.

there are "ethical" fruititarians, because fruits are gifts the plants offer up, but consuming a vegetable is eating the plant itself.

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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>He might have been aware of when his life would end, since he passed away just one year later," says Ohnishi. "Maybe that's why he chose not to write the whole sentence, and only the first three words." This isnt a popular opinion since HN (and media) tends to deify Jobs, but people forget he died an ignorant death at his own hand. Jobs was diagnosed with a curable cancer and against all reason, he decided eating fr…

FTA: "Jobs' autograph now adorns the wall of Sushiiwa. It comes with a message: "All good things", a shortened version of the saying "All good things must come to an end.""

> The idea that Jobs had any deep philosophical ponderance of the human condition or introspection on his own mortality is comical.

seriously, tell it brother! He wrote "All good things." to a tasting menu in a restaurant, because he liked the sushi, not because he was even pondering the "all good things must come to an end", which btw is hackneyed and wouldn't indicate ponderous thoughts anyway.

Elsewhere in an article it points out that in the middle of an omakase he asked to be served repeated toro's till he said "stop"... that is sooo removed from japanese culture or any sense of restraint or selflessness, as is his statement (FTA, my paraphrasal) on seeing a zen garden "I WANT THAT"

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