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Back to the Future with RSS

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Re: Back to the Future with RSS

#71

There is on issue, RSS is advert and cookie free. Meaning it creates a clean web, but as such prevents monetization, so I guess it was not suitable technology. But on the other hand there are many blogs that do not care about Google Ads or similar, so it would be interesting to revamp RSS again.

Nothing forbade the RSS providers to deliver adverts as RSS. Which some did, as I recall, because it annoyed me.

Re: Back to the Future with RSS

#72
post #50

So what's a good general news feed? The Associated Press shut theirs down. The New York Times doesn't update much throughout the day. I'd like a good news feed that only has really important stories. No filler, no press release stuff.

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Re: Back to the Future with RSS

#73
post #10

What would it take to get Firefox to support RSS again? With support I mean: 1. To detect RSS feeds and show an icon in the UI 2. Render RSS files, so they look better than raw text 3. Link that UI icon to a subscribe function: Show a configurable list of RSS Readers and send the feed to the subscribe URL of the selected one. This can already be added with extensions, but it would boost RSS adoption if it were a defa…

> but it would boost RSS adoption

Firefox and chrome had them for a decade, it did nothing. Beating a dead horse will not magicaly revive it. RSS is not dying because people have forgotten about. It always was an obscure feature for a low number of special people, and this did not change. And today it's even worse, because world has moved on, yet the RSS-crowd has barely adapted to it.

I'm using Newsfeeds for 15+ years now, and with every year I'm moving ,pre and more away from them, because that's not were modern live is anymore. We should start adapting and raise a new school of tooling for the purpose that RSS feeds, instead of playing around with yet another bunch of low effort-solutions in hope to find the magic potion.

If you wanna bring in new blood, you should deliver them tools where they are, to raise them up in their own world. But today tooling in RSS-space is so aweful bad and outside of peoples daily live...

Re: Back to the Future with RSS

#74
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After more than 20 years with Thunderbird as my reader (first NNTP, then RSS), I switched to NewsBlur and am much happier. While thunderbird is a good reader, it doesn’t synchroniZe “already seen” across machines, and many feeds only have the latest 10 items in their XML feed, so unless you poll continuously, you are likely to miss updates. I like to occasionally take a week off the world (without the laptop), and ma…

This is, just like the failure to link to a stylesheet in the feed, IMO a failure on the publisher's part. The feed should support pagination with the appropriate rel=next links in the feed. WordPress is interesting in that it supports pagination through a URL parameter (e.g. ?paged=2), but it doesn't actually advertise them...

Indeed, but it is what it is. You can either use Thunderbird and miss updates, or use a continuous server based solution and receive all of them.

I’m a 4-year happy paying customer of NewsBlur, which I wholeheartedly recommend.

Re: Back to the Future with RSS

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post #50

So what's a good general news feed? The Associated Press shut theirs down. The New York Times doesn't update much throughout the day. I'd like a good news feed that only has really important stories. No filler, no press release stuff.

Shameless Plug: https://UncensoredNews.US I import the best progressive news feeds, and recommend the best articles (in blue). The other articles are also available if you re interested. The RSS links, link to the original articles, not to my site.

Re: Back to the Future with RSS

#77
post #11

The tech is great, the feeds are just garbage / 2nd tier citizens. Garbage in, garbage out rule still lives. e.g. I've got an economist sub - a reputable source of news. Checked out the feed...picked one...week in review. Title on every post is week in review. Content of post is a link. No context, no summary, no single sentence...nothing.i.e. Would need to click through to find out topic on each one. Might as well n…

I really love the model Ars Technica went with! As a free user you’ll get the first couple (3 maybe?) paragraphs of each article and for paid subscribers they’re offering full text feeds

Yes that seems reasonable. If all feeds were like that I'd be more enthusiastic about RSS

Re: Back to the Future with RSS

#78
post #16

I agree with the paragraph at the end: > Now you know how to escape the attention-draining, empathy-killing, critical-thought-suffocating siren song of the algorithms. The only way I got my sanity back to cut out everything that's not RSS. I still use HN's algo, but everything else goes to NewsBlur. I'm trying to quit the HN algo, but can't do it yet... mainly because the content is actually interesting.

Yep, similar experience over here.

As an FYI in case you’re not funneling HN through your reader, this is pretty handy:

* Hacker News RSS https://hnrss.github.io/

You can subscribe to the front page, the firehouse, comments, search queries, and more. I really like it!

Re: Back to the Future with RSS

#79
Has anyone found a way to build RSS from Facebook pages?, seems FB made it more difficult for instances as RSS Bridge to build RSS and the only solutions i have found are premium services which need monthly payments.

Re: Back to the Future with RSS

#80
What is the incentive for websites setting it up? Isnt that the reason why mpst websites removed it givibg away content for free, with no ads? I never used it myself so im pretty clueless but isnt this why people dont use it anymore ?
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