Wait, the building manager was sitting on a re-certification report (that was required by the county/city) since Jan that said the building was unsafe? Wtf?
"Crestview Towers North Miami Beach offers property for sale that are modern, well-maintained ..." perhaps not. https://crestviewtowers.com/
Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe
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Re: Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe
#42The geology of Florida is terrifying. I’ve been reading about how a building like this could collapse, and I came across this interesting phrase, “sink hole alley” The area between Tampa and Orlando. The bed rock is so unstable that sinkholes have become ubiquitous.
Re: Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe
#43I live in Minneapolis. Back in 2007 the I-35W bridge collapsed, killing 13 people. Engineers had previously reported that the bridge had structural problems. And once the collapse became national headlines news, bridges nationwide were given special attention. It shouldn't take horrific accidents for us to suddenly decide to care about structural safety.
So you want to pay higher taxes? You are in the minority.
I'd say we could trade away the feeling that we could spend the money elsewhere for the lives of all the people who were killed.
Re: Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe
#44I live in Minneapolis. Back in 2007 the I-35W bridge collapsed, killing 13 people. Engineers had previously reported that the bridge had structural problems. And once the collapse became national headlines news, bridges nationwide were given special attention. It shouldn't take horrific accidents for us to suddenly decide to care about structural safety.
So you want to pay higher taxes? You are in the minority.
I'd like to pay lower taxes, and have them spent on different things. Such as reliable infrastructure instead of 20-year wars. (And a pony.)
Re: Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe
#45I believe in CA, not FL, but the imgur user AlphaStructural usually has some truly hair-raising photo albums every week: https://imgur.com/user/alphastructural/posts
It seems I can’t view that link on a phone unless I download the app. I didn’t realize Imgur has started blocking content from web browser users. For others here, requesting a desktop version of the website lets you view the user’s gallery that the parent linked to.
Re: Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe
#46I live in Minneapolis. Back in 2007 the I-35W bridge collapsed, killing 13 people. Engineers had previously reported that the bridge had structural problems. And once the collapse became national headlines news, bridges nationwide were given special attention. It shouldn't take horrific accidents for us to suddenly decide to care about structural safety.
So you want to pay higher taxes? You are in the minority.
Re: Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe
#47I live in Minneapolis. Back in 2007 the I-35W bridge collapsed, killing 13 people. Engineers had previously reported that the bridge had structural problems. And once the collapse became national headlines news, bridges nationwide were given special attention. It shouldn't take horrific accidents for us to suddenly decide to care about structural safety.
Similarly, it shouldn't take a security breach for companies to care about security. Poor budgets are what is eliminating the safety nets.
Re: Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe
#48I live in Minneapolis. Back in 2007 the I-35W bridge collapsed, killing 13 people. Engineers had previously reported that the bridge had structural problems. And once the collapse became national headlines news, bridges nationwide were given special attention. It shouldn't take horrific accidents for us to suddenly decide to care about structural safety.
So you want to pay higher taxes? You are in the minority.
Re: Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe
#49I live in Minneapolis. Back in 2007 the I-35W bridge collapsed, killing 13 people. Engineers had previously reported that the bridge had structural problems. And once the collapse became national headlines news, bridges nationwide were given special attention. It shouldn't take horrific accidents for us to suddenly decide to care about structural safety.
The problem is the same as it is in IT. Risk management and disaster prevention requires money, which people rarely want to spend. Boards for condos are elected, and they try to keep costs low. No one is going to elect someone who says the building should spend millions to prevent a collapse that they feel is theoretical.
Re: Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is the same as it is in IT. Risk management and disaster prevention requires money, which people rarely want to spend. Boards for condos are elected, and they try to keep costs low. No one is going to elect someone who says the building should spend millions to prevent a collapse that they feel is theoretical.
This is exactly what happened with Champlain Towers. After that assessment, they got a repair estimate and then the board and residents argued with each other about the price of fixing it for 3 years... all the way up to the moment it collapsed. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/majority-of-fl...