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Google workspace isn't free.

Can't find any free plan either now. I guess they just discontinued them and are not upgrading existing accounts.

It's not been free for around a decade now. The free version was mostly a ploy to attract people away from Outlook at the time.

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Do you need to set up each *@my.tld address manually, or can you just seamlessly reply to emails send to neverusedbefore@my.tld?

The latter, which often makes for an interesting conversation at medical offices and shops when I jot down their-business-name@mydomain.com. The FastMail mobile client makes replying to those emails without “breaking character” easy.

Wow. This is awesome! I wish there was an easy way to do this in Mail.app. While Mailbox.org allows it, my mail client of choice Apple’s Mail needs that @tld to be added in Settings.

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> Yea, they say as much in the data privacy FAQ. I think my recommendation is that if you're worried about being explicitly targeted by state actors, don't use email. (Not even Protonmail.) Protonmail (and Tutanota, which I went with) both offer E2E encrypted email via open-source client apps, so they should be fine even against state actors if you use their encryption. In the case of Tutanota, this has even been tes…

The E2E will help so long as you're sending email to other users of the same service, yeah. For most cases, it's probably not a huge upgrade from stored encrypted; the bulk of damage in email leaks would be from accumulated emails from the past. The reason I don't recommend using it if you're super paranoid is because it'd be easy to mess up, and it comes with quite significant holes- e.g. subjects aren't E2E in Prot…

Tutanota went with a different tradeoff so they have E2E encryption of subject lines etc. Downside is that they can't support other clients, which is why I wouldn't have even considered them if the apps hadn't been open source.

https://tutanota.com/secure-email/

They also have a pseudo-workaround for using E2E with external users - if I send a secure message to foo@bar.com, I can encrypt it with a pre-shared password and their mail will get a link to a web "mailbox" where they can enter that password to decrypt the message. Clunky, but I wouldn't know how to do better.

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> Yea, they say as much in the data privacy FAQ. I think my recommendation is that if you're worried about being explicitly targeted by state actors, don't use email. (Not even Protonmail.) Protonmail (and Tutanota, which I went with) both offer E2E encrypted email via open-source client apps, so they should be fine even against state actors if you use their encryption. In the case of Tutanota, this has even been tes…

I personally feel that calling Proton Mail or Tutanota end-to-end encrypted is sort of misleading. Sure, they may have the contents of your mailbox encrypted but in transit they can see your email in plain text and so can the recipient's mail server. If you desire E2EE I highly recommend using GPG or Signal.

I don't know about the Protonmail UX, but the Tutanota apps at least make it very clear when sending an email whether you're using E2E or just plain unencrypted mail. (If you leave it on E2E and try to email a non-Tutanota account, it will ask you for a pre-shared password with which to encrypt the message.)

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Oh cool, my project is on HackerNews! I was wondering about the sudden uptick in user signups, and then I checked HN... I'm Scott, feel free to ask me anything about the service.

Is it a one person show, or are there people, team, cofounders, and a company behind it?

Just me- check the about page. (It is registered as a company too.)

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Whether we wish to switch or not (I'd be inclined to consider it but I am quite happy with Fastmail and am not super worried about a saving a few bucks a month): Is there a generic solution for moving over IMAP inboxes from one provider to another?

I can recommend imapsync. Liked it so much I donated a little dosh to the developer.

https://imapsync.lamiral.info

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Hah, yeah - fair enough. Glad I could fix your issue. Ahh, Webdav. I know the XML libraries a lot better these days and could make that code a lot tighter, but it's still chugging along just fine, pretty much untouched since :) As for enterprise focus - not so much enterprise, but we are focusing more on the non-technical user. All the power is still there under the hood and available, but it's not so much in your fa…

Hi, is there going to be a plan like the lowest tier of mailbox.org (esp. the price)? People who just need email with 1-2GB and probably a catch all?

No, that isn't likely. The email storage used is part of our cost, but a relatively small part compared to the support, operations, and development costs. We don't have any other business subsidising the email service, and we're not intestered in a race to provide the cheapest, no-frills product.

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Fastmail isn't entirely faceless either :p But we're definitely not still the 3-man show that we were before the Opera years (up until 2010). Obviously, I think Fastmail is worth the extra for the multi-copy redundancy & backups, new features, contributions we're making to the standards world, and not being dependent on a single person - the past few years in particular we've been focusing on not only being able to s…

I'm happy to pay whatever I'm paying for what you're offering. I had create two support tickets so far and both were dealt with very quickly and by an actual human which makes me trust you guys with my data even more.

This is the kind of feedback I like to hear! Thank you, and the support team will be pleased to hear that you're happy.

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The price is right, but the polish isn't.

That's partly intentional! Hopefully it scares away the users who expect perfection, and they can be better handled by a glossier service. (Also I'm just genuinely mediocre at design, and kind of personally prefer less frills anyway.)

I'm glad someone posted it here. You're filling a very much needed service in the industry, even if it doesn't meet my particular desires.

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There is a reason - DigitalOcean. A more appropriate name would be DigitalCesspool. They allow anything, so long as you pay them. I'd block email from their networks, but there are already plenty of ways that spam servers on their networks screw up (bad EHLO name, broken reverse DNS, SPF for all IP addresses), so that email is not accepted anyway. Microsoft sucks for rejecting email without recourse, but you're on Di…

I’m not on digital ocean and I don’t know anyone who is. I’m on the receiving end using office 365. Problems I see are for mail coming from shared hosts and isps. IMHO there’s never a reason for Microsoft or Google to drop mail silently if it’s deliverable. Let me decide if I want to do that, but don’t force it on me. Google is awful too. Accounts locked for “suspicious activity” stop accepting incoming mail. I’ve se…

Things will only change if enough paying customers complain loudly about it.
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