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RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content

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Re: RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content

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Seriously, FF on Ubuntu causes 100% CPU usage when watching YouTube in 1080p. Meanwhile Chrome on Windows eats maybe 6-10%. How is this not #1 priority to fix?

I'm pretty sure most users don't have this experience. Can you post a link to a pastebin of your about:support or file a bug?

This is normal. Firefox is only now rolling out accelerated decoding on Linux.

Re: RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content

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Rendering performance is one of the few things left that Chrome has up its sleeve as an edge over their competitors (mainly Firefox), at least on Linux. Out of the box, Firefox has terrible rendering performance, not to mention hw-accelerated video decoding. Now, Chrome is not a whole lot better out of the box, since it still applies old "Driver bug workarounds" that have long been fixed in mesa/GPU drivers, but this…

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Re: RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content

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I'm probably just being cynical, but those graphs and diagrams scream of a lack of "meat" to what they're saying. Except for the first graphic, they are all just products of a marketing brain, as far as I can tell. Showing the old engine as a graph that plummets, and the new one as one that doesnt, or the one that plots "frustration" against "features & complexity", is just utterly meaningless to me. Maybe this appea…

Look at the evolution of the web technologies. Lots of improvements. Now look at the web. It's unusable without an ad blocker. The tech mafia keeps tracking people and censoring the web, practicing right-speak and removing critical voices. Can a new Web technology solve that? If not, it doesnt matter.

You're conflating web technology with the content strategy of web publications and Google's moderation approach. These are 3 entirely separate issues.

Re: RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look at the evolution of the web technologies. Lots of improvements. Now look at the web. It's unusable without an ad blocker. The tech mafia keeps tracking people and censoring the web, practicing right-speak and removing critical voices. Can a new Web technology solve that? If not, it doesnt matter.

I find this sentiment baffling. > Now look at the web. It's unusable without an ad blocker. Don't like ads? Don't visit sites that run ads. For instance, I can't read most of online newspapers because of the ads; so I just don't bother. I visit HN instead. > The tech mafia keeps tracking people and censoring the web, practicing right-speak and removing critical voices. I don't know what right-speak is (is it speaking…

I think "right-speak" is his neologism for "politically correct". What he wants is to practice "wrong-speak", i.e. speech not approved by whatever shadowy forces are constraining him.

Re: RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content

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I'm probably just being cynical, but those graphs and diagrams scream of a lack of "meat" to what they're saying. Except for the first graphic, they are all just products of a marketing brain, as far as I can tell. Showing the old engine as a graph that plummets, and the new one as one that doesnt, or the one that plots "frustration" against "features & complexity", is just utterly meaningless to me. Maybe this appea…

I think the Chrome team has done a lot of good work here, but you're right about the graphs. What units does the "frustration" axis use, anyway?

Hair count? The number of hairs pulled dots to frustration.

Re: RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content

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post #14
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I'm probably just being cynical, but those graphs and diagrams scream of a lack of "meat" to what they're saying. Except for the first graphic, they are all just products of a marketing brain, as far as I can tell. Showing the old engine as a graph that plummets, and the new one as one that doesnt, or the one that plots "frustration" against "features & complexity", is just utterly meaningless to me. Maybe this appea…

I think the Chrome team has done a lot of good work here, but you're right about the graphs. What units does the "frustration" axis use, anyway?

how fast they bang their keyboard

Re: RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content

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Am I correct in reading that these NG sites aren't accessible without a side DOM synced to canvas content?

They're saying it's possible, but the article is talking (mostly fluff) about some software improvements to Chromium to enable that.

I don't know if there's such a thing as an "NG site", and if there is, the new software will still support normal sites

Re: RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content

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I find this sentiment baffling. > Now look at the web. It's unusable without an ad blocker. Don't like ads? Don't visit sites that run ads. For instance, I can't read most of online newspapers because of the ads; so I just don't bother. I visit HN instead. > The tech mafia keeps tracking people and censoring the web, practicing right-speak and removing critical voices. I don't know what right-speak is (is it speaking…

I think "right-speak" is his neologism for "politically correct". What he wants is to practice "wrong-speak", i.e. speech not approved by whatever shadowy forces are constraining him.

I believe you are correct; I misread the comment. In any case, practicing wrong-speak on a resource you have control over is just as easy as practicing right-speak :-)
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