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Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe

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Re: Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe

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The geology of Florida is terrifying. I’ve been reading about how a building like this could collapse, and I came across this interesting phrase, “sink hole alley” The area between Tampa and Orlando. The bed rock is so unstable that sinkholes have become ubiquitous.

I don't think the bedrock is the problem, it's the layer of limestone above it - that's what everything in the state actually sits on.

Re: Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe

#22

The geology of Florida is terrifying. I’ve been reading about how a building like this could collapse, and I came across this interesting phrase, “sink hole alley” The area between Tampa and Orlando. The bed rock is so unstable that sinkholes have become ubiquitous.

even better is the strawbrrry growers are still allowed to pump down the aquifer if it freezes encouraging salt watdr intrusion and dissolution. florida is really a bad place for republican deregulation.

Re: Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe

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North Miami Beach commissioner Fortuna Smukler ... said authorities were working to help the evacuated residents find places to go. There may not be anywhere for them to go. Right now, FL rental ads are getting 400 applicants per day per property - and there aren't many new ads. source: I'm a FL renter whose rental is being sold.

Is this everywhere in FL? Or just Miami? I used to live in WPB about 4 years ago. It wasn't that bad to find a rental at the time

Mostly Miami, especially in the burbs and even hitting as South as Florida City.

Re: Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe

#25

The geology of Florida is terrifying. I’ve been reading about how a building like this could collapse, and I came across this interesting phrase, “sink hole alley” The area between Tampa and Orlando. The bed rock is so unstable that sinkholes have become ubiquitous.

It’s almost the opposite in NYC. Huge buildings on solid foundations. Hard part is building. Everything you drop you need to build same day. Good luck organizing it!

The new midtown superthins are held up by reinforced concrete and are swaying in the breeze. They're going to be a liability once enough cracks develop.

Re: Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well they don't want to fix it, and presumably the lack of repairs is dangerous. What is the government supposed to do? Do the repairs for them and send them a bill?

No, I meant what I said. The time for argument is over. Get those people out of that dangerous situation. Later we can investigate who should have paid what when.

The who should pay part might be even more important now. As a condo the individual owners are collectively on the hook for repairs if insurance doesn't pay out. And they're now in possession of condo units they can't sell and also can't live in. Their individual homeowners insurance will presumably, hopefully cover them now.

Re: Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s almost the opposite in NYC. Huge buildings on solid foundations. Hard part is building. Everything you drop you need to build same day. Good luck organizing it!

The new midtown superthins are held up by reinforced concrete and are swaying in the breeze. They're going to be a liability once enough cracks develop.

All high rises sway in the breeze

Re: Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I meant what I said. The time for argument is over. Get those people out of that dangerous situation. Later we can investigate who should have paid what when.

The who should pay part might be even more important now. As a condo the individual owners are collectively on the hook for repairs if insurance doesn't pay out. And they're now in possession of condo units they can't sell and also can't live in. Their individual homeowners insurance will presumably, hopefully cover them now.

If there are other insurers involved, they should already be running the lawsuit against the scam insurance company. If it only took a week to find another building like this, Florida over the next five years is going to be very good for attorneys and very bad for insurers.

Re: Miami orders evacuation of 156-unit as structurally and electrically unsafe

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I meant what I said. The time for argument is over. Get those people out of that dangerous situation. Later we can investigate who should have paid what when.

The who should pay part might be even more important now. As a condo the individual owners are collectively on the hook for repairs if insurance doesn't pay out. And they're now in possession of condo units they can't sell and also can't live in. Their individual homeowners insurance will presumably, hopefully cover them now.

The damage to the building is presumably in the condo's common elements, so no I do not believe it would be covered by a individual homeowners policy. Their individual unit has no damage, it's the structure below the unit that needs repair.

The homeowners are out of luck until a claim is made on the master insurance policy.

This shouldn't actually be a problem because that's what the master policy is for but it sounds like something has gone wrong with making a claim.

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