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This does make me wonder if this is susceptible to the same form of trolling as that MS AI got. Commit a load of grossly offensive material to multiple repos, and wait for Copilot to start parroting it. I think they're going to need some human moderation.
So this makes it official... this post[0] and the comments on the announcement[1] concerned about licensing issues were absolutely correct... and this product has the possibility of getting you sued if you use it. Unfortunately for GitHub, there's no turning back the clocks. Even if they fix this, everyone that uses it has been put on notice that it copies code verbatim and enables copyright infringement. Worse, ther…
If they get rid of licensed stuff it should be ok no? I really want to use this and seems inevitable that we'll need it just as google translate needs all of the books + sites + comments it can get a hold of.
So this makes it official... this post[0] and the comments on the announcement[1] concerned about licensing issues were absolutely correct... and this product has the possibility of getting you sued if you use it. Unfortunately for GitHub, there's no turning back the clocks. Even if they fix this, everyone that uses it has been put on notice that it copies code verbatim and enables copyright infringement. Worse, ther…
If they get rid of licensed stuff it should be ok no? I really want to use this and seems inevitable that we'll need it just as google translate needs all of the books + sites + comments it can get a hold of.
Quake and GitHub are both owned by Microsoft now, perhaps we can assume this is relicense?
From the Copilot FAQ:
Who owns the code GitHub Copilot helps me write?
GitHub Copilot is a tool, like a compiler or a pen.
The suggestions GitHub Copilot generates, and the code you write with its help, belong to you, and you are responsible for it.
We recommend that you carefully test, review, and vet the code, as you would with any code you write yourself.
I think a point where this argumentation might fail is that Quake's source code does not belong to Github directly, but instead both Github and Quake belong to Microsoft. However, I am not a lawyer, so I might be wrong.
It seems like a very sensible answer from copilot since the prompt includes "Q_" which makes it obvious that the programmer is specifically looking for the Quake version of this function. To me it doesn't show that copilot will regurgitate existing code when I don't want it to, just that if I ask it to copy some famous existing code for me it will oblige.
The claim for AI systems like this is that it has actually learned something and is generating code from scratch. Oftentimes the authors will claim regurgitation is simply not possible, and this example shows that's a lie. Many arguments on the benefits, legality and power of AI systems rely on this claim. To turn around now and say it's OK to regurgitate in the right setting is to move the goalposts.
Do the Copilot authors claim this?
I get that you're suggesting that Copilot may benefit from absolute claims made by the authors of other, similar systems (or their proponents), but I also don't think it's reasonable to exclude nuance and the specifics of Copilot from ongoing discussions on that basis. The Copilot authors have publicly acknowledged the regurgitation problem, and by their account are working on solutions to it (e.g. attribution at suggestion-generation time) that don't involve sweeping it under the rug.
From the Copilot FAQ: > The technical preview includes filters to block offensive words And somehow their filters missed f*k? That doesn’t give a lot of confidence in their ability filter more nuanced text. Or maybe it only filters truly terrible offensive words like “master”.
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Most people answer like this when they realize you are an unreasonable person who refuse to listen. Happens all the time, like "Oh, I understand (you are one of those). Thank you for explaining!", and remember that they need to stop using this word when working with you.
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While I strongly doubt they would use Wikipedia as a training set, has anyone done a search of GitHub code to see if other projects have copied-and-pasted that function from Wikipedia into their more-permissive codebases?
It is probably based off GPT-3 with a layer on top trained for programming specifically, like what is done with AI dungeon.
From the Copilot FAQ: > The technical preview includes filters to block offensive words And somehow their filters missed f*k? That doesn’t give a lot of confidence in their ability filter more nuanced text. Or maybe it only filters truly terrible offensive words like “master”.
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ICE, of course, runs an actual concentration camp which has a slightly more troublesome history than the word master.
Language policing is to racism what recycling is to global warming - an attempt to shift the focus away from elite responsibility for systemic issues to "personal responsibility" and forestall meaningful reform by placing emphasis on largely non-threatening symbolic gestures.
From the Copilot FAQ: > The technical preview includes filters to block offensive words And somehow their filters missed f*k? That doesn’t give a lot of confidence in their ability filter more nuanced text. Or maybe it only filters truly terrible offensive words like “master”.
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Another example of what seems like a fake moral outcry is "blackface". And, I mean what it is being referred to now, and not the actual meaning. The racist ridicule by stereotyping ethnicity. That was "Blackface". Yet, for some reason, context doesn't matter anymore, and we end up with removing episodes of Community because someone painted their face in a cosplay of an dark elf, in exact commentary of this.
There is a significan systemic racism in the US that affects almost everything. In order to deal with those things, the very first thing would be to properly be able to identify racism. Context matters. Renaming "Master" branches is not progress. Ostracising a kid for dressing up as Michael Jackson isn't it.
Whenever I see outrage over such things I cynically think that the person is probably white, and probably doing it for attention. One thing is for sure, it only serves to detract from the real issues.