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IBM's 18-month company-wide email system migration has been a disaster: sources

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I’m 41, and know all those things, and my father’s company ran for most of my life on AS/400. But they replaced those systems over a decade ago. My whole professional career IBM has been trying to commit corporate suicide in a stumbling awkward way. It’s a testament to how long you can keep spending down brand credibility. I struggle to call them important today. Maybe historically interesting. But not important.

So a Fortune 50 company is “unimportant”? In what way?

Because they're only predictive of what's worked in the past, and works okay enough to ride the entropy in the present — not what will progress really well in the future.

Re: IBM's 18-month company-wide email system migration has been a disaster: sources

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AS an ex-IBMer, I can tell you that there are hundreds of thousands who are directly affected but most of them would be frustrated but not overly concerned. Like in a government, they will end up making a scapegoat out of a few minions but the leadership will remain unscathed. It’s an organisation where everyone is responsible but none would be Accountable.

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From the comments: > These guys were important once, right? I don't think I'm old enough to remember such a time. I thought they were a law firm for a while because they only seemed to be mentioned in court cases. Ouch.

Its funny how differently people probably perceive them based on what tech they work with. At work, I use their IBM i / AS400 on the daily. At school, I work with IBM Q for research. I would contend that IBM is one of the most important players in QC / NISQ today, and still notable for their mainframes and things like zOS. And what about RHEL? According to their Q4-FY2020 earnings report, they did $2.5bn in revenue f…

IBM made RHEL?

Re: IBM's 18-month company-wide email system migration has been a disaster: sources

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its funny how differently people probably perceive them based on what tech they work with. At work, I use their IBM i / AS400 on the daily. At school, I work with IBM Q for research. I would contend that IBM is one of the most important players in QC / NISQ today, and still notable for their mainframes and things like zOS. And what about RHEL? According to their Q4-FY2020 earnings report, they did $2.5bn in revenue f…

IBM made RHEL?

I should have been clearer. IBM acquired RedHat in 2020 (https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/ibm-closes-la...), and it looks like it will be a significant part of their business going forward. It's a really interesting proposition, given IBM's push for open source in enterprise systems (https://www.ibm.com/opensource/).

Re: IBM's 18-month company-wide email system migration has been a disaster: sources

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post #80

From the comments: > These guys were important once, right? I don't think I'm old enough to remember such a time. I thought they were a law firm for a while because they only seemed to be mentioned in court cases. Ouch.

Its funny how differently people probably perceive them based on what tech they work with. At work, I use their IBM i / AS400 on the daily. At school, I work with IBM Q for research. I would contend that IBM is one of the most important players in QC / NISQ today, and still notable for their mainframes and things like zOS. And what about RHEL? According to their Q4-FY2020 earnings report, they did $2.5bn in revenue f…

IBM was the Google or Microsoft of the 80s. Like HP, in realigning the company to survive they destroyed what made them great. I worked with many smart IBM folks… without exception they were laid off or driven out to meet some random metric.

The Red Hat acquisition and spin out of the services garbage might make them more relevant again.

Re: IBM's 18-month company-wide email system migration has been a disaster: sources

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It definitely wasn't a Coyote Creek migration. Christ, pay me $10M and I'll bring an army of 30 geeks to turnaround this landfill fire. I did a startup that M&A'ed organization email providers of all sorts (Exchange, postfix, sendmail, etc.) to aggregate them for efficiencies at scale. 1. Tested and complete backups 2. Sample testing 3. mbox migrations 4. Exceptions handling 5. Further testing 6. Cutover

Yes, but you presumably hire people who are good at their jobs. IBM hires... bodies. And I'd imagine internal IBM IT is... anyone they can't use to bill a customer with. Ouch.

I wouldn't let excellent internal IT to do a massive, specialized, critical migration because of the finger-pointing risks and pressure to fire should there be an unforeseen, unmitigated problem. When something is as mission-critical as email, use a lifeline and phone a consultant who does this regularly.

IBM should use this crisis as an opportunity to fire horrible IT resources, e.g., managers and staff.

Re: IBM's 18-month company-wide email system migration has been a disaster: sources

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Its funny how differently people probably perceive them based on what tech they work with. At work, I use their IBM i / AS400 on the daily. At school, I work with IBM Q for research. I would contend that IBM is one of the most important players in QC / NISQ today, and still notable for their mainframes and things like zOS. And what about RHEL? According to their Q4-FY2020 earnings report, they did $2.5bn in revenue f…

IBM was the Google or Microsoft of the 80s. Like HP, in realigning the company to survive they destroyed what made them great. I worked with many smart IBM folks… without exception they were laid off or driven out to meet some random metric. The Red Hat acquisition and spin out of the services garbage might make them more relevant again.

IBM was the entire IT industry of 1950s, 1960s, and most of 1970s. It is hard to explain IBM's dominance in today's terms. IBM used to be so dominant that the entire financial industry could not operate without their IBM mainframes and today major banks still run on IBM.

The downside (to IBM) was that Wall Street decided "never again" and fought hard to prevent another company of IBM's scale from reappearing.

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I use pi4.navan.dev for my emails, while I’m getting the rDNS stuff figured out with my ISP. No reason, but it just signifies that the mail server is hosted on my pi4 at my home, while I host navan.dev on a VPS

There’s no reason to do that, though. You can set your MX record to whatever you want for your domain. Why would you set yourself up to have to change your email? Not to mention advertising that your email is on a raspberry pi. Somebody will probably come along and DDOS that thing just for fun.

I just use that as a disposable email. I know there are better ways, but then with a subdomain, I can just experiment as much as I can.

I would like to believe that I have put the correct measures to prevent a DDOS attack, and it’ll be fun to combat a real time attack honestly

Re: IBM's 18-month company-wide email system migration has been a disaster: sources

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its funny how differently people probably perceive them based on what tech they work with. At work, I use their IBM i / AS400 on the daily. At school, I work with IBM Q for research. I would contend that IBM is one of the most important players in QC / NISQ today, and still notable for their mainframes and things like zOS. And what about RHEL? According to their Q4-FY2020 earnings report, they did $2.5bn in revenue f…

I’m 41, and know all those things, and my father’s company ran for most of my life on AS/400. But they replaced those systems over a decade ago. My whole professional career IBM has been trying to commit corporate suicide in a stumbling awkward way. It’s a testament to how long you can keep spending down brand credibility. I struggle to call them important today. Maybe historically interesting. But not important.

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