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Two Portland delivery companies revolt against Amazon, shut down

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Re: Two Portland delivery companies revolt against Amazon, shut down

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Post by D13Fd »

This is more or less how it should be. If Amazon isn't going to offer a good enough deal, then companies shouldn't move packages for them. As more and more people figure it out, other delivery companies will stop working with Amazon as well, although it may be that the deals work out better in places with lower cost-of-living, easier delivery routes (due to climate, geography, etc.), or other advantages.

If some other delivery company can figure out how to make it work economically, then they can do the work instead.

If nobody is interested in trying to make it work, Amazon will have to either improve the deal it offers or go back to using FedEx/UPS/USPS.

Re: Two Portland delivery companies revolt against Amazon, shut down

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Post by whoknowswhat11 »

chewmieser wrote: post #13
whoknowswhat11 wrote: post #10

HN really needs to look at these types of headlines - They are written without qualification. 0.001 of Amazon delivery companies shut down 2 out if 2000 delivery companies shut down. Are both probably more accurate.

It would just be nice to flag it as a misleading headline or something like that. This is from the guidelines: Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. We should use the original title but something like a misleading flair would be helpful.

I like this idea - they are usually pretty obvious and follow a pattern. Usually very broad statements (all workers) with strong language ie "revolt" when reality is different.

Air traffic controllers on strike actually meant something back in the day

Re: Two Portland delivery companies revolt against Amazon, shut down

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Post by MattGaiser »

specialp wrote: post #27
blakesterz wrote: post #2

Wow, I guess I never really paid attention to the details behind all the Amazon headlines I see. "In April, Amazon announced it would reduce the amount it paid for drivers from $17.25 to $16.00 an hour, according to the letter...Weeks later, Amazon announced a series of raises for its drivers around the country as part of a public relations push following a union drive at an Amazon warehouse" "Currently, Amazon deliv…

Yes and hence like warehouse workers not taking bathroom breaks for fear of being "off-task" Amazon drivers cut corners too. I have seen them blowing through stop signs, and one of them after blowing through a stop sign, ripped a three point turn and came within one foot of my car before my beeping stopped them. I called Amazon and they of course speak of them like they are some completely separate affiliate that has…

They are basically delivery franchises in my understanding.

Re: Two Portland delivery companies revolt against Amazon, shut down

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Post by nceqs3 »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #18
redleggedfrog wrote: post #8

Vote with your dollars folks. I'm 5 years in to an Amazon boycott and hardly even notice really.

I just cancelled my prime this year after 15 years. I'm surprised this hasn't become a more visible trend. Amazon has no shortage of shitty practices, but it seems very few people actually care.

It's almost as if low prices and fast shipping are what people care about.

Re: Two Portland delivery companies revolt against Amazon, shut down

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Post by smolyeet »

peer2pay wrote: post #28
ckdarby wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you using that is even close to the same, offers a similar return guarantees and contactless due to covid?

If you buy quality goods from companies that care about their products and customers you will barely need any return guarantees. If you buy Amazon junk on the other hand...

Every company needs a return policy , in fact the best ones are most likely to honor them and for longer periods of time. I'm not going to buy something more expensive if I can't at least return it if I need to

Re: Two Portland delivery companies revolt against Amazon, shut down

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Post by orangegreen »

ckdarby wrote: post #15
redleggedfrog wrote: post #8

Vote with your dollars folks. I'm 5 years in to an Amazon boycott and hardly even notice really.

What are you using that is even close to the same, offers a similar return guarantees and contactless due to covid?

I've never been an Amazon customer. I like to buy things in store. If I want something that isn't in a store, I will buy it from eBay. eBay also tends to have better prices than Amazon.

Re: Two Portland delivery companies revolt against Amazon, shut down

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Post by wtf_is_up »

zouhair wrote: post #14
rightbyte wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 400 packages a day on 10-hour routes 40 packages per hour or 90s per package. No wonder the drivers pee in bottles and work unpaid overtime to keep their jobs.

And throw packages like they don't care, as they should.

How is destroying other people's stuff a reasonable response for you being disgruntled at your employer?

Re: Two Portland delivery companies revolt against Amazon, shut down

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Post by wtf_is_up »

whoknowswhat11 wrote: post #10

HN really needs to look at these types of headlines - They are written without qualification. 0.001 of Amazon delivery companies shut down 2 out if 2000 delivery companies shut down. Are both probably more accurate.

Not surprising that this is from vice.com

Re: Two Portland delivery companies revolt against Amazon, shut down

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Post by MattGaiser »

nonfamous wrote: post #3

> [contract delivery companies] have to adhere to a strict set of rules from Amazon around hiring, pay, delivery times and routes, and more. The only one of these that Amazon has any right to dictate is delivery times (and what they will pay for that delivery). The fact that Amazon has direct control over the contractor’s worker’s pay, and even the ability to fire those workers, is very shocking to me. Remember, this…

Amazon probably does not dictate pay directly. They just put in the contract that all workers must make X and get health insurance.
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