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Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by haunter »

noutella wrote: post #47

How incredibly weird is it to witness American schizophrenia* when it comes to races (and gender) from a non-american perspective. "Black+", "Latinx+", "LGBTTQQIAAP". Putting people in smaller and smaller box in the name of equality and diversity. I am the only one to feel this is coming to an absurd point ? I'm not an alt-right fan, nor would I vote Republican if I could, I'm a leftist in what's considered a traditi…

It's the biggest victory of the rich in the last decade. They turned a socio-economical class problem (poor workers vs rich) that infects the current state of capitalism into a race warfare. Turn people against each other so we can live free.

divide et impera, working perfectly

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by sidlls »

doubleunplussed wrote: post #105
sidlls wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, absolutely. The appearance of "x" instead of the "a" or "o" is an immediate signal of someone who is trying to signal wokeness, but isn't actually.

Signalling wokeness is wokeness. It's not like there's some authentic wokeness - calling it wokeness is accusing it of being inauthentic.

Okay; and that's fine by me, as I do consider it a rather shallow minded concept anyway. But it does mean something in certain communities, and there are indicators when someone is mouthing words without understanding their meaning or weight. To claim there isn't an "authentic wokeness" is not exactly correct.

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by eric4smith »

eplanit wrote: post #119
eric4smith wrote: post #97

Unpopular opinion… Could it be that women (in general) want something more in life than working in a big company for a nice wage? Study after study after study show that women want families and other things other than the standard mega corporation employment that society has trained us to expect. I’d bet if one looked at the numbers one would see that women as a whole are leaving google and other companies just as mu…

Google infamously fired a male engineer for speculating on such things. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google's_Ideological_Echo_Ch...

Yup. And at the time I thought he was wrong.

But even though he was an ass, studies have proved him absolutely right.

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by cudgy »

danielrpa wrote: post #55

I happen to be very familiar with Google's diversity efforts and have many Black and Latinx friends and acquaintances in the company. Google is one of the most racially inclusive tech companies in the world. It really tries hard to fix historical disparities between races in ways that you don't see in most companies, ranging from very active promotion of minorities to programs dedicated to hiring them. The interview…

How do you know Google is working harder than most other companies? Perhaps taking such an active approach is not the right strategy.

Would be interesting to hear your insight.

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by GlennS »

I realise this isn't the point of the article, but I'd be interested in knowing a few more numbers:

* Absolute numbers of people leaving over time * Absolute numbers of employee * Average tenure

(And you could break those down by group.)

My thinking is: maybe there's a background effect? Google used to have the reputation of being the most exciting and desirable place to work in tech, and maybe it deserved that reputation? Now?

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by blacktriangle »

_vbnz wrote: post #127
blacktriangle wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Marx wrote about a theory of history in which all of history progresses through phases in which each phase is defined by struggle between classes. His view was that communism was the inevitable end of this model of history in that communism would finally resolve the class struggle. But for somebody who wishes to promote communism, the problem is if there is no class struggle, then history does not advance to their de…

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You think this is only going on in the US? You must not get out much.

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by cudgy »

grapehut wrote: post #106

I've conducted technical interviews for a FAANG company for several years, and been explicitly told to go easy on and inflate the scores of minorities. On one hand it makes sense as we're trying to hire minority groups on a greater ratio than they're coming out of college. On the other hand, it doesn't surprise me they retention rates a lot lower when often they're thrown into positions they would otherwise not be re…

I wonder why they don’t help them get more qualified if that is the goal of the company. My guess is that it would be admitting the new hires are deficient which could backfire.

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by ceilingcorner »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #86
mastazi wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are studies that show that polyglot speakers tend to think in slightly different ways when they switch languages. It is probably true that speaking a language where every noun is gendered might slightly change the way you think, but in my personal opinion not in the way you imagine. What I mean is that when masculine or feminine are used to describe mundane everyday objects, it's very well possible that the ide…

I'm learning German at the moment. Everything is gendered. Such a strange way of looking at the world. And the unfortunate "das Mädchen" [0] - the German word for "young woman" is neutral gender (because it's a compound noun and the "-chen" suffix is neutral). I wonder how that affects German society when all young women are objects. Does this de-emphasise their femininity, or increase their "sexual object"-ness? [0]…

Things that are “different” are not “strange.”

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by cudgy »

techbrobane wrote: post #43

This website is a stellar example of white tech bro culture, especially threads like this. Guaranteed toxic AF.

Might as well find a website that is non-toxic and agrees with your views because there are many perspectives on this site, which is one of it’s greatest strengths.

Another strategy is to avoid any threads concerning politics and diversity issues where one feels there could be “toxic” perspectives.

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