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Name of the Game: The distinction between ‘influencer’ and ‘creator’

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Re: Name of the Game: The distinction between ‘influencer’ and ‘creator’

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Maybe I'm just old enough to have missed the influencer trend, so I don't appreciate it or "get it".

However, as I understand it, and also agree on, the label "influencer" as a classifier of occupation, is sort of meaningless. Although I don't appreciate it, and accept that this isn't for me, it's just a form of entertainment. The content created by influencers just tends to be more specific to the experiences of that person, rather than some insight or knowledge imparted by that person.

This whole dissertation of an article could be reduced to the following: "Influencer" is a subset of "content creator".

To which I would add that "influencer" is a nice subset, because it makes it very clear that I will find little of interest or value.

Re: Name of the Game: The distinction between ‘influencer’ and ‘creator’

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Maybe I'm just old enough to have missed the influencer trend, so I don't appreciate it or "get it". However, as I understand it, and also agree on, the label "influencer" as a classifier of occupation, is sort of meaningless. Although I don't appreciate it, and accept that this isn't for me, it's just a form of entertainment. The content created by influencers just tends to be more specific to the experiences of tha…

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Re: Name of the Game: The distinction between ‘influencer’ and ‘creator’

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Maybe I'm just old enough to have missed the influencer trend, so I don't appreciate it or "get it". However, as I understand it, and also agree on, the label "influencer" as a classifier of occupation, is sort of meaningless. Although I don't appreciate it, and accept that this isn't for me, it's just a form of entertainment. The content created by influencers just tends to be more specific to the experiences of tha…

The term "influencer" is basically the full-time equivalent of celebrity endorsements. Marketing has known for ages that your product sells easier if a relatable/revered face is promoting it.

An influencer, then, is someone who made their entire career about becoming famous enough to sell endorsements for a living.

Re: Name of the Game: The distinction between ‘influencer’ and ‘creator’

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An influencer is someone that influences people, usually teenagers.

Influencers and creators are not mutually exclusive. You can be both. That said, most influencers I know don't create anything and most kids who want to be influencers are not thinking about creating something of value, only about doing stupid things in front of a camera and getting money from sponsors.

An influencer, not so long ago, advertised some sports drink by saying it was better than water because water doesn't hydrate you. Then she went on a rant about how she doesn't want to use a mask and will refuse the vaccine. Make sure your kids don't follow every stupid influencer out there.

Re: Name of the Game: The distinction between ‘influencer’ and ‘creator’

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Both creators and influencers create content, and both creators and influencers have influence. But they are completely different things.

If you make a sculpture then you're a creator, if you share a picture of yourself in front of that sculpture then you're an influencer.

Influencer content is defined by being both persona-based and touristy, and is about establishing connections between a person and things or experiences made by other people.

Re: Name of the Game: The distinction between ‘influencer’ and ‘creator’

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Maybe I'm just old enough to have missed the influencer trend, so I don't appreciate it or "get it". However, as I understand it, and also agree on, the label "influencer" as a classifier of occupation, is sort of meaningless. Although I don't appreciate it, and accept that this isn't for me, it's just a form of entertainment. The content created by influencers just tends to be more specific to the experiences of tha…

Influencers work in advertising.

Re: Name of the Game: The distinction between ‘influencer’ and ‘creator’

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The original meaning of ‘influencer’ isn’t a stand-alone occupation or job title. It was meant to be anyone who has rapport with a specific demographic and a significant enough following that they can, literally, influence a significant number of people.

Paul Graham, for example, has a large audience of people who read his essays and Tweets. If he publishes an essay, it hits the front page of Hacker News and is widely read. Not everyone consumes his writings blindly or without debate, but the debate furthers engagement with his material and is therefore a net expansion of his influence. Paul Graham is an influencer.

Some degree of content creation, from Tweets to Instagram content to essays or Substacks, is necessary to engage an audience to receive the influence. That’s why influencers and content creators are one in the same, as the article highlights:

> In many ways, the distinction between influencer and creator is the product of longstanding critical divisions between art (seen as organically created) and mass culture (seen as manufactured and dangerous). Influencer suggests a mode of distracting and sedating the public, creating generations of docile consumers. Creator reaches into a different tradition.

The modern definition of ‘influencer’ has deviated to become pejorative. In many contexts, such as Hacker News, it has become an insult that means someone doesn’t produce valuable content, but rather presents a fake front through social media in order to sell things to their uninformed followers. It’s not a good look, which is why people only use the term influencer to describe people they dislike, or people that they don’t personally follow.

Few people would admit that Paul Graham or the Substacks they subscribe to or their Twitter follows are also influencers, because we don’t like to think of ourselves as being able to be influenced. However, by the original meaning of influencer that’s exactly what they are.

The term ‘influencer’ now has too many negative connotations to be useful any more in public conversation as anything other than an insult or dismissal. It’s still useful in the context of discussing PR or advertising, but it’s on my list of terms to simply avoid due to how it might be received.

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