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Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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This website is a stellar example of white tech bro culture, especially threads like this. Guaranteed toxic AF.

By time of writing i dont find anything toxic here, just confusion on what X and + mean outside of math contexts and electronics models

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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I often hear people I dismiss directly mention cultural marxism. But I have never seen an explanation of what cultural marxism is. Could you enlighten me?

Cultural Marxism is a revolutionary leftist idea that traditional culture is the source of oppression in the modern world. Cultural Marxism is often linked to an insistence upon political correctness, multiculturalism, and perpetual attacks on the foundations of culture: the nuclear family, marriage, patriotism, traditional morality, law and order, etc. Cultural Marxists are assumed to be committed to establishing economic Marxism, in which case their cultural attacks are a necessary preparation for their ultimate goal.

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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What is Black+ and Latinx+? This is the first time I'm hearing this term and can't find anything about it in the report or online.

Maybe the reason for the attrition. I'm a white dude but work in a foreign country (also predominantly white). For the most part I'm just "one of the guys". I only really feel like an outsider when corporate policy dictates we have to talk about cultural sensitivity towards foreigners and I happen to be the only foreigner in the room. For people of different races, I assume this feeling is switched on practically all…

You don't solve problems (or racism) by ignoring them, and your experience as a white person in another majority white country is not particularly informative on the experience of a black person in a country with the history of systematic enslavement of, disenfranchisement of, and discrimination against black people. A head in the sand approach isn't workable. It was the black employees themselves who were most vocal in arguing that the company should address race issues head-on, e.g. during the George Floyd protests last summer.

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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> The company nearly doubled the number of Black+ people in U.S. leadership to 7.1% last year It’s cool they’ve been able to find qualified people, taking a long time to fill those roles but very nice they are doing it! They will more adequately address additional markets with this talent gravitational pull. What is the percentage of Black+ in the population? The US census doesn’t have a + section, so we can deduce t…

Black people are currently less educated as a result of systemic racism than their Asain and white counterparts. That would make achieving 12% leadership particularly difficult, since black people are on average less qualified(on paper, at least) relative to applicants from other races.

Asians are proof the power of systemic racism to hold minorities down in this day and age is not very strong.

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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How incredibly weird is it to witness American schizophrenia* when it comes to races (and gender) from a non-american perspective. "Black+", "Latinx+", "LGBTTQQIAAP". Putting people in smaller and smaller box in the name of equality and diversity. I am the only one to feel this is coming to an absurd point ? I'm not an alt-right fan, nor would I vote Republican if I could, I'm a leftist in what's considered a traditi…

Seems like Dividing by Equality and Diversity

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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I have studied Spanish and am currently studying Portuguese (my partner is Brazilian) and I think about this a lot. I would take the other side of the bet here. I would bet that this deeply ingrained gendering of objects does show up elsewhere and influence attitudes. Surely there have been studies on this? Of course I respect your experience as a native speaker and the fact that you know more native speakers than I…

There are studies that show that polyglot speakers tend to think in slightly different ways when they switch languages. It is probably true that speaking a language where every noun is gendered might slightly change the way you think, but in my personal opinion not in the way you imagine. What I mean is that when masculine or feminine are used to describe mundane everyday objects, it's very well possible that the ide…

I'm learning German at the moment. Everything is gendered. Such a strange way of looking at the world.

And the unfortunate "das Mädchen" [0] - the German word for "young woman" is neutral gender (because it's a compound noun and the "-chen" suffix is neutral). I wonder how that affects German society when all young women are objects. Does this de-emphasise their femininity, or increase their "sexual object"-ness?

[0] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/M%C3%A4dchen

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Thanks. Is there a hierarchy? Like if I identify as both Black and White, am I counted in Black+ or White+ or is it double counted? Does the employee provide a ranking?

The only other group as obsessed with racial hierarchies as the modern woke left was Nazi Germany. Their published classification would seem to fit just fine at Google. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws#Classifications...

Doesn't seem like you have any idea what "hierarchy" means.

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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> some people from underrepresented backgrounds have said they continue to feel unwelcome in the tech industry, and they also remain high in demand elsewhere as companies compete to increase diversity. This is dangerous territory to comment on perhaps, but it seems like many policies which seek to boost individual company population ratios to be significantly higher than the comparable tech-industry ratios are prone…

True. Underrepresentation should be something addressed at a higher level.

Anytime an organization treats one group of people differently it creates at least two problems: others in the organization resent the preferential treatment and more importantly the targeted group does not get proper credit for their accomplishments, since they and others feel like their accomplishments were due to the advantages conferred to them by the organization.

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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3% of Hispanics use the term, and an overwhelming majority believe it should never be used to describe them. [1] Honestly it's disgusting it's still in use. When does it be come a slur given it's used against a population against their wishes? [1] https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2020/08/11/about-one-in...

To play devil's advocate here (I don't personally care one way or another what hispanic people are typically called), I don't think polling sentiment is necessarily a good indicator of something's morality. For reference, 75% of polled people in the US disapproved of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. in the year he was assassinated. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/why-martin-luther-kin... If we go by your logic of p…

This isn't about how everyone feels but about how the group that this is supposed to represent and name feels about it. It's like someone decided that your name is now Alice. You had no say in it and you don't like the name but you're now Alice. You had a name you called yourself but they didn't care and now you're Alice.

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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I often hear people I dismiss directly mention cultural marxism. But I have never seen an explanation of what cultural marxism is. Could you enlighten me?

It's recycled nazi propaganda:

"Cultural Bolshevism (German: Kulturbolschewismus), sometimes referred to specifically as art Bolshevism, music Bolshevism or sexual Bolshevism, was a term widely used by Nazi German-sponsored critics to denounce modernist and progressive movements in the culture... Cultural Marxism is a contemporary variant of the term which is used to refer to the far-right antisemitic Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory. This variant of the term was used by far-right terrorist Anders Breivik in the introductory chapter of his manifesto."

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism

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