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Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by kzrdude »

mastazi wrote: post #17

I'm Italian and I speak Spanish and Portuguese relatively fluently. Using the term "Latinx" in my opinion is a form of cultural appropriation, because it imposes a way of using grammatical gender that is typical of the English language (think e.g. about the "singular they") upon neo-latin languages where the perception of grammatical gender is very different. In neo-latin languages such as Italian or Spanish, grammat…

It seems Latinx is a word used in some circles the U.S. and it's a word choice specific to their language. Much like how the U.S. use of plain "America" is contentious in the rest of Latin America - words have different meanings in different contexts and spheres, but there's is conflict when it leaks outside the boundaries.

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by ericmay »

indigochill wrote: post #36
bko wrote: post #3

What is Black+ and Latinx+? This is the first time I'm hearing this term and can't find anything about it in the report or online.

Maybe the reason for the attrition. I'm a white dude but work in a foreign country (also predominantly white). For the most part I'm just "one of the guys". I only really feel like an outsider when corporate policy dictates we have to talk about cultural sensitivity towards foreigners and I happen to be the only foreigner in the room. For people of different races, I assume this feeling is switched on practically all…

It’s kind of a case of the more you talk about how different something or someone is the more you kind of focus on the difference. At least seems that way.

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by jefftk »

vmception wrote: post #2

> The company nearly doubled the number of Black+ people in U.S. leadership to 7.1% last year It’s cool they’ve been able to find qualified people, taking a long time to fill those roles but very nice they are doing it! They will more adequately address additional markets with this talent gravitational pull. What is the percentage of Black+ in the population? The US census doesn’t have a + section, so we can deduce t…

They're using "Black+" as "all Googlers who identify as Black, plus those who identify as Black and any other race".

The census does track people identifying with multiple races. Pew, citing the census, says there are ~46.8M (40.7M + 3.7M + 2.4M) Americans who identify as Black (and possibly as something else as well) so about 14%.

[1] https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2021/03/25/the-gro....

(Disclosure: I work on ads at Google, speaking only for myself)

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by kzrdude »

sz4kerto wrote: post #30
mastazi wrote: post #17

I'm Italian and I speak Spanish and Portuguese relatively fluently. Using the term "Latinx" in my opinion is a form of cultural appropriation, because it imposes a way of using grammatical gender that is typical of the English language (think e.g. about the "singular they") upon neo-latin languages where the perception of grammatical gender is very different. In neo-latin languages such as Italian or Spanish, grammat…

Not even speaking about languages without gendered nouns. :) Sometimes I use she instead of he or the other way around, and the listeners likely don't realize that I have to pay extra attention using he/she when talking about people because my mother tongue doesn't even have a similar concept whatsoever. Anyway, we know that most of the time it's not about actually respecting the other person.

I have noticed this in some speakers (for example finns and chinese), and thought that this might be the cause. :)

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by vmception »

sct202 wrote: post #18
vmception wrote: post #2

> The company nearly doubled the number of Black+ people in U.S. leadership to 7.1% last year It’s cool they’ve been able to find qualified people, taking a long time to fill those roles but very nice they are doing it! They will more adequately address additional markets with this talent gravitational pull. What is the percentage of Black+ in the population? The US census doesn’t have a + section, so we can deduce t…

Is that a mistake? In the charts on this year's report, the Black Leadership % went from 2.6% to 3.0%. https://diversity.google/annual-report/representation/

Best I can see is maybe a 7% increase!

The article got that very incorrect

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by noutella »

How incredibly weird is it to witness American schizophrenia* when it comes to races (and gender) from a non-american perspective.

"Black+", "Latinx+", "LGBTTQQIAAP". Putting people in smaller and smaller box in the name of equality and diversity.

I am the only one to feel this is coming to an absurd point ? I'm not an alt-right fan, nor would I vote Republican if I could, I'm a leftist in what's considered a traditional sense in my country, but this is beyond my understanding.

* Oh boy was that ableist ?

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by boltedBRT »

How statistically significant are these numbers?

Given large jumps in both directions for various groups, it’s hard to figure out if this is just noise or a meaningful number (eg last year: attrition for whiteX-males was higher, this year it’s higher for blackX-females).

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by [deleted] »

blueflow wrote: post #11
bko wrote: post #3

What is Black+ and Latinx+? This is the first time I'm hearing this term and can't find anything about it in the report or online.

In the anglosphere (and especially in the US), the ethnic background of a person is given much attention. They have very odd labels with the intent to be more inclusive towards the "corner cases". The 'x' probably stands as a placeholder for 'o' and 'a' to capture both the male and female version. This seems to be a oddity of the english-speaking cultures and not very relevant to other parts of the world.

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