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Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by mpol »

lazyweb wrote: post #178
baobabKoodaa wrote: post #111

> An honest list of drawbacks I appreciate putting up a list like this. That said, I want to comment on one of the listed drawbacks: > Occasionally, obscure email servers will block emails sent through us I have a few years of experience running my own email server and I can tell you this is a major pain in the ass. When you send your email via a small email server (a server that sends a low volume of email), you wil…

> I have a few years of experience running my own email server and I can tell you this is a major pain in the ass. When you send your email via a small email server (a server that sends a low volume of email), you will have constant issues getting mail delivered. Also, most of the issues will not be with obscure email servers, they will be with Outlook and Gmail. When you send email, you will never know if your email…

This is my experience too with a private server, but I did need SPF, DKIM and Dmarc. These 3 things do require some expertise, but running a mail server already requires that. So it just needs extra time :)

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by lytefm »

piaste wrote: post #132
f1refly wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry if I missed it, but do you do catchall email service for custom domains? My current email provider ( https://mailbox.org ) limits email aliases per price plan, the most basic that I currently use allows for 3 + a free root@ and webmaster@. I'd probably be convinced to go through the hassle and switch providers if your service provides an improvement over this limit.

I use Tutanota and it supports catchall aliases. 12€/yr for 1GB + custom domain + 5 aliases (plus catchall).

Same price for 2GB + Custom Domain + 3 sending Aliases + Catchall + Contacts and Calender Sync + Web Client + hosting in Germany for the old Mailbox.org plan is still the better offfering for me privately as I regularily clean up my Mail + like having calender and contacts integrated.

But 10€/ month for unlimited storage and users is definitely a good offer, too.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by jdauriemma »

faraaz98 wrote: post #22
listenallyall wrote: post #14

Thank you for making this service available. For entrepreneurs who like to launch new ideas with custom domains, pricing models like the one here is a HUGE savings over pay-per-account (or domain) pricing found at most major email providers. Further, it's not easy making much money charging just $10/year, even if the business gets quite popular... so again, thanks for making it available.

I'm curious, what are your thoughts on Zoho mail. You can use your custom domains even in their free tier

I have a custom domain email address on Zoho and suffer constantly from delivery issues. Sometimes my emails go into spam filters, sometimes they go into a black hole. It’s a huge PITA and I am tempted to either move providers (maybe it’s Zoho’s fault) or just stop using my custom domain (maybe it’s not Zoho’s fault).

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by zbuf »

mpol wrote: post #181
lazyweb wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have a few years of experience running my own email server and I can tell you this is a major pain in the ass. When you send your email via a small email server (a server that sends a low volume of email), you will have constant issues getting mail delivered. Also, most of the issues will not be with obscure email servers, they will be with Outlook and Gmail. When you send email, you will never know if your email…

This is my experience too with a private server, but I did need SPF, DKIM and Dmarc. These 3 things do require some expertise, but running a mail server already requires that. So it just needs extra time :)

More than just SPF, DKIM and DMARC; mails still get silently discarded if you come from an IP address with a poor reputation. For this reason most of the large VM hosting providers will work but not give great results.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

mpol wrote: post #181
lazyweb wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have a few years of experience running my own email server and I can tell you this is a major pain in the ass. When you send your email via a small email server (a server that sends a low volume of email), you will have constant issues getting mail delivered. Also, most of the issues will not be with obscure email servers, they will be with Outlook and Gmail. When you send email, you will never know if your email…

This is my experience too with a private server, but I did need SPF, DKIM and Dmarc. These 3 things do require some expertise, but running a mail server already requires that. So it just needs extra time :)

Nope, setting up SPF, DKIM and DMARC is not enough to get your email delivered. I wrote about my experience more here: https://www.attejuvonen.fi/dont-send-email-from-your-own-ser...

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

lazyweb wrote: post #178
baobabKoodaa wrote: post #111

> An honest list of drawbacks I appreciate putting up a list like this. That said, I want to comment on one of the listed drawbacks: > Occasionally, obscure email servers will block emails sent through us I have a few years of experience running my own email server and I can tell you this is a major pain in the ass. When you send your email via a small email server (a server that sends a low volume of email), you wil…

> I have a few years of experience running my own email server and I can tell you this is a major pain in the ass. When you send your email via a small email server (a server that sends a low volume of email), you will have constant issues getting mail delivered. Also, most of the issues will not be with obscure email servers, they will be with Outlook and Gmail. When you send email, you will never know if your email…

> My server is quite low traffic, but it's been delivering mail reliably. How do I know? When I send mails, there's usually follow-ups.

And when there's no follow-ups, you just assume your mail has been delivered? I recommend actually measuring your deliverability before making claims about it.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by kyriakos »

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #111

> An honest list of drawbacks I appreciate putting up a list like this. That said, I want to comment on one of the listed drawbacks: > Occasionally, obscure email servers will block emails sent through us I have a few years of experience running my own email server and I can tell you this is a major pain in the ass. When you send your email via a small email server (a server that sends a low volume of email), you wil…

Email deliverability is monopolised among the big players. Running your own email server and actually keeping your emails outside spam folders is more than one person's full time job. Partly this is not the big players fault but to say they don't benefit from it would be a lie.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by bovermyer »

Felz wrote: post #30

Oh cool, my project is on HackerNews! I was wondering about the sudden uptick in user signups, and then I checked HN... I'm Scott, feel free to ask me anything about the service.

What happens if you die, get frozen in carbonite, or some other circumstance that prevents you from maintaining the service?

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by frank1234 »

"We host our servers through Amazon Web Services"

As long as you outsource the hosting to another company -- an American company in particular -- then you're not really in the business of secure e-mail.

Secure from other users? Sure. Secure from the hosting company and the government it answers to? Never.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by zbuf »

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #185
mpol wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is my experience too with a private server, but I did need SPF, DKIM and Dmarc. These 3 things do require some expertise, but running a mail server already requires that. So it just needs extra time :)

Nope, setting up SPF, DKIM and DMARC is not enough to get your email delivered. I wrote about my experience more here: https://www.attejuvonen.fi/dont-send-email-from-your-own-ser...

The irony is that most of the spam I get these days comes from Amazon's AWS SMTP service.
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