Isn't Google free? Perhaps with certain limitations... I know I never paid for email.
GMail has ads. It's free because you are the product, not the customer. Google's customers are the advertisers. The money has to come from somewhere.
Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email
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#152The price is right, but the polish isn't.
(Also I'm just genuinely mediocre at design, and kind of personally prefer less frills anyway.)
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#153> An honest list of drawbacks I appreciate putting up a list like this. That said, I want to comment on one of the listed drawbacks: > Occasionally, obscure email servers will block emails sent through us I have a few years of experience running my own email server and I can tell you this is a major pain in the ass. When you send your email via a small email server (a server that sends a low volume of email), you wil…
> Occasionally, obscure email servers will block emails sent through us The worst offender is Microsoft and their email services (hotmail.com/live.com/outlook.com/etc.). They reject all emails from my server, because it's on DigitalOcean. They are ignoring all requests to unblock my IP address. They don't mark it as spam, they just outright block emails, so you can't even workaround it by checking the spam folder.
And there’s no reason for them to do that IMO. They should dump it into the quarantine as high confidence spam. I wonder if the drop shows up in the mail flow logs.
I deal with a lot of small businesses and more than once I’ve seen bad spam filtering or silent drops cost people money (upset customers). The spam filters I can understand. The silently dropped messages should get them a class action lawsuit.
Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email
#154Oh cool, my project is on HackerNews! I was wondering about the sudden uptick in user signups, and then I checked HN... I'm Scott, feel free to ask me anything about the service.
>You cannot have more than $50 in credit at any time.
Just curious, why a $50 limit? I'm the weird kind of guy who likes to pay years in advance. If possible, please consider raising this limit to $100 or even $200.
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#155> An honest list of drawbacks I appreciate putting up a list like this. That said, I want to comment on one of the listed drawbacks: > Occasionally, obscure email servers will block emails sent through us I have a few years of experience running my own email server and I can tell you this is a major pain in the ass. When you send your email via a small email server (a server that sends a low volume of email), you wil…
> Occasionally, obscure email servers will block emails sent through us The worst offender is Microsoft and their email services (hotmail.com/live.com/outlook.com/etc.). They reject all emails from my server, because it's on DigitalOcean. They are ignoring all requests to unblock my IP address. They don't mark it as spam, they just outright block emails, so you can't even workaround it by checking the spam folder.
Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email
#156can anyone explain what benefits are to a managed email service over rolling your own on a vps server with stuff like mailinabox? you use your custom domain anyways and it allows s3 or backblaze backups so data retention is not an issue. you use your custom domain so in case something stupid happens to your vps provider, you can just restore and be done with it? and its not like managing your own vps email server is…
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yea, they say as much in the data privacy FAQ. I think my recommendation is that if you're worried about being explicitly targeted by state actors, don't use email. (Not even Protonmail.) If you're worried about general data hoovering, AWS would probably need to implement very sophisticated introspection into what your machines are doing to break the SSL on SMTPS, and courts might not be sympathetic to that. I expect…
> Yea, they say as much in the data privacy FAQ. I think my recommendation is that if you're worried about being explicitly targeted by state actors, don't use email. (Not even Protonmail.) Protonmail (and Tutanota, which I went with) both offer E2E encrypted email via open-source client apps, so they should be fine even against state actors if you use their encryption. In the case of Tutanota, this has even been tes…
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's a one-man enterprise, which may frighten some people Email is super critical for most people these days (eg. 2FA). That sounds like a really scary bus-factor [1] risk, especially considering data is encrypted at rest. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor
I actually get asked about this semi-frequently. Probably nobody could replace me as a _developer_ on Purelymail, but I've been training my brother to handle extended maintenance and to have handover credentials if anything happens to me personally. (This might be in the FAQ?)
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#159Where is this hosted?
AWS us-east-1, it looks like: $ dig mx purelymail.com ;; ANSWER SECTION: purelymail.com. 86400 IN MX 50 mailserver.purelymail.com. $ dig mailserver.purelymail.com ;; ANSWER SECTION: mailserver.purelymail.com. 60 IN A 18.204.123.63 $ whois 18.204.123.63 OrgName: Amazon Technologies Inc. https://awsips.co for the region information
whois $(dig +short A $(dig +short MX purelymail.com | head -n 1) | head -n 1)Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email
#160well he lists there also Zoho for 12USD, so what exactly is benefit over Zoho which offers 5GB for 10.8EUR and 10GB for 13.5EUR?