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Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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I recently switched to Posteo from a few years with ProtonMail. Reading from Purelymail's docs and with price being within $3 annually of one another (Posteo is €12 annually) Posteo pros: comes with calendar and contacts via WebDAV, not registered in the US (Germany is part of 14 Eyes, but not 5 or 9, and the EU is better about privacy), cash payment option Purelymail pros: more storage @ $10, custom domain support,…

The 2FA is just regular TOTP RFC 6238.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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post #30

Oh cool, my project is on HackerNews! I was wondering about the sudden uptick in user signups, and then I checked HN... I'm Scott, feel free to ask me anything about the service.

I'm sorry if I missed it, but do you do catchall email service for custom domains? My current email provider (https://mailbox.org) limits email aliases per price plan, the most basic that I currently use allows for 3 + a free root@ and webmaster@. I'd probably be convinced to go through the hassle and switch providers if your service provides an improvement over this limit.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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post #30

Oh cool, my project is on HackerNews! I was wondering about the sudden uptick in user signups, and then I checked HN... I'm Scott, feel free to ask me anything about the service.

How do you do spam blocking? I think Gmail really shines at this. It's one of the reason I was thinking of switching to Hey email also, though after reading Hey's reviews I've decided not to. So anyway, would love some comments from users or you about how good you are at separating the wheat from the chaff.

I think SpamAssassin (plus curated greylisting) does a decent job most of the time, although I'm starting to see weird issues with spurious DNSWL tests that pass through pretty spammy mail.

In the long run I'm probably going to replace the Bayesian part of SpamAssassin with something custom, simply because operationally it's painful and I think neural nets are closer to state of the art.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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post #62
post #30

Oh cool, my project is on HackerNews! I was wondering about the sudden uptick in user signups, and then I checked HN... I'm Scott, feel free to ask me anything about the service.

I'm sorry if I missed it, but do you do catchall email service for custom domains? My current email provider ( https://mailbox.org ) limits email aliases per price plan, the most basic that I currently use allows for 3 + a free root@ and webmaster@. I'd probably be convinced to go through the hassle and switch providers if your service provides an improvement over this limit.

IIRC, mailbox supports catchall if you sacrifice one alias for it. You’d have to input „@domain.tld“ at the alias config menu.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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post #62
post #30

Oh cool, my project is on HackerNews! I was wondering about the sudden uptick in user signups, and then I checked HN... I'm Scott, feel free to ask me anything about the service.

I'm sorry if I missed it, but do you do catchall email service for custom domains? My current email provider ( https://mailbox.org ) limits email aliases per price plan, the most basic that I currently use allows for 3 + a free root@ and webmaster@. I'd probably be convinced to go through the hassle and switch providers if your service provides an improvement over this limit.

mailbox.org supports catchall aliases.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Great work, and as somebody who self hosted my own email from 2013 to 2021, I don’t envy you. What broke me down was Google starting to spam my emails that were replies to conversations that I did not start — even with a stellar domain reputation and DKIM, SPF, reverse DNS, greylisting, everything set up right. I hope you have personal contacts on the Gmail team at Google, much as I’d like for this to be a joke.

I had this exact same problem. When I finally got hold of someone who worked for Google (via a friend of a friend on a mailing list) and with the ability to check whatever their logs were claiming, I was informed that my domain's reputation was "too recent" or something like that. My domain is a year older than Google itself and has been in continuous use for e-mail that whole time. The IP addresses it is on haven't…

Same here - I HAD to move over to Fastmail because like GP I'd respond to email enquiries from GMail addresses and then never hear back. After weeks of this, someone finally phoned up to complain about my poor customer service. This despite also having an old and apparently well set-up domain.

I lost a lot of business back then. Thanks, Google.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry if I missed it, but do you do catchall email service for custom domains? My current email provider ( https://mailbox.org ) limits email aliases per price plan, the most basic that I currently use allows for 3 + a free root@ and webmaster@. I'd probably be convinced to go through the hassle and switch providers if your service provides an improvement over this limit.

IIRC, mailbox supports catchall if you sacrifice one alias for it. You’d have to input „@domain.tld“ at the alias config menu.

Yeah, that works for me as well.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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post #30

Oh cool, my project is on HackerNews! I was wondering about the sudden uptick in user signups, and then I checked HN... I'm Scott, feel free to ask me anything about the service.

Looks great! Supporting ManageSieve is a nice touch. Most sieve services only allow managing sieve through a web UI. I use Fastmail and like that they contribute to open source mail servers, and do standards work (JMAP). Does PurelyMail contribute to open source?

In general yes I do contribute to open source, although there's not too much to contribute back to open source _yet_, so the main contribution has just filing Roundcube bugs. (The main mailserver code has diverged too much from Apache James to really be useful.)

Some of the libraries I wrote are open sourced and on my Github account, e.g. the web framework: https://github.com/ScottPeterJohnson/shade

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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I'm not sure price is the parameter to compete on for email services, at least for me. Email is extremely important to most businesses, and if I'm already paying for a domain, and running a business, even the $70 for a Workspace solution is a drop in the bucket. What I need, however, is deliverability, strong privacy and security, good spam filtering, and support when I need it.

I'd encourage you to try doubling or tripling the price so you can afford to hire more people and grow the business :) I suspect the rate of signups will stay the same.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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I've been using Purelymail as my sole mail provider for over a year now (previously with Fastmail) and it has been my best email experience. It's a one-man enterprise, which may frighten some people, but I prefer boutique internet companies to the faceless monoliths. (I'd like more of the internet to be made of these small corner bodegas.)

Fastmail isn't entirely faceless either :p But we're definitely not still the 3-man show that we were before the Opera years (up until 2010).

Obviously, I think Fastmail is worth the extra for the multi-copy redundancy & backups, new features, contributions we're making to the standards world, and not being dependent on a single person - the past few years in particular we've been focusing on not only being able to survive any server dying, but also being able to survive the unavailability of any single person!

Anyway - glad you're happy. Fastmail will still be here if you ever find that you want to move back.

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