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Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by Nullabillity »

johnwheeler wrote: post #18

Screenshots of the mail UI would be awesome. On the drawbacks blurb, it mentions potential deliverability issues and says they’re usually resolved in a day or two. Through blog entries by mailchimp, I've read this is an extremely hard problem to solve and like playing whack-a-mole. How true is that? For example, I’ve read that trying to host your own email on digital ocean is pointless, which is understandable becaus…

It's worth keeping in mind that MailChimp is primarily a spam delivery service, of course they're going to have issues where they get stuck in spam filters.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by nine_k »

chaz6 wrote: post #49
Felz wrote: post #30

Oh cool, my project is on HackerNews! I was wondering about the sudden uptick in user signups, and then I checked HN... I'm Scott, feel free to ask me anything about the service.

Two questions from me:- Usernames on shared domains: 1 to 6 letters: $1.00 per user per year 7 to 12 letters: $0.25 per user per year 13+ letters: $0.10 per user per year 1. Why does the length of a mailbox name make a difference? 2. Do you support IPv6?

Shorter emails are more catchy, and their total possible number is smaller. So they can be more valuable.

boss@example.com is cooler for some than john.n.johnson.2@example.com, and they will pay.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

nine_k wrote: post #52
chaz6 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two questions from me:- Usernames on shared domains: 1 to 6 letters: $1.00 per user per year 7 to 12 letters: $0.25 per user per year 13+ letters: $0.10 per user per year 1. Why does the length of a mailbox name make a difference? 2. Do you support IPv6?

Shorter emails are more catchy, and their total possible number is smaller. So they can be more valuable. boss@example.com is cooler for some than john.n.johnson.2@example.com, and they will pay.

I think there is also another reason: Shorter addresses receive more spam and spam attempts from guessers.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by Felz »

chaz6 wrote: post #49
Felz wrote: post #30

Oh cool, my project is on HackerNews! I was wondering about the sudden uptick in user signups, and then I checked HN... I'm Scott, feel free to ask me anything about the service.

Two questions from me:- Usernames on shared domains: 1 to 6 letters: $1.00 per user per year 7 to 12 letters: $0.25 per user per year 13+ letters: $0.10 per user per year 1. Why does the length of a mailbox name make a difference? 2. Do you support IPv6?

1. Basically what nine_k said. It's kind of a trivial point most of the time- honestly might be a bit overpriced right now.

2. Not at the moment- IPV6 support is a little dicier for mailservers because the scarcer IPV4 address is often used as a antispam signal.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by Crazyontap »

Felz wrote: post #30

Oh cool, my project is on HackerNews! I was wondering about the sudden uptick in user signups, and then I checked HN... I'm Scott, feel free to ask me anything about the service.

How do you do spam blocking?

I think Gmail really shines at this. It's one of the reason I was thinking of switching to Hey email also, though after reading Hey's reviews I've decided not to. So anyway, would love some comments from users or you about how good you are at separating the wheat from the chaff.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by c0l0 »

rolleiflex wrote: post #34
Felz wrote: post #30

Oh cool, my project is on HackerNews! I was wondering about the sudden uptick in user signups, and then I checked HN... I'm Scott, feel free to ask me anything about the service.

Great work, and as somebody who self hosted my own email from 2013 to 2021, I don’t envy you. What broke me down was Google starting to spam my emails that were replies to conversations that I did not start — even with a stellar domain reputation and DKIM, SPF, reverse DNS, greylisting, everything set up right. I hope you have personal contacts on the Gmail team at Google, much as I’d like for this to be a joke.

FTR, directed at those who valiantly continue to self-host mail/SMTP: Greylisting is not sound any more in this day and age, because the largest mail services will rarely, if ever, use the same MTA instance to retry delivery upon a soft bounce.

The good news is that if you have postfix, using postscreen with an informed choice of blocklists is enough to deal with 99%+ of inbound spam. You can strap in rspamd or spamassassin/amavis behind that, but it's mostly not needed.

The inbound-mail-problems are largely solved, but surefire delivery to other parties is a matter of IPaddr/domain reputation, properly implementing relevant standards, and luck.

If you're interested in learning more about (including, but not limited to, self-hosting) email, the #email channel on the libera.chat IRC network is a great resource to ask questions.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by stanislavb »

Felz wrote: post #30

Oh cool, my project is on HackerNews! I was wondering about the sudden uptick in user signups, and then I checked HN... I'm Scott, feel free to ask me anything about the service.

Good job, Scott! This is Stan from SaaSHub. I'll be featuring Purelymail on next week's newsletter of SaaSHub. It's a good moment to verify the listing and improve the details.

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by postiecard »

Felz wrote: post #30

Oh cool, my project is on HackerNews! I was wondering about the sudden uptick in user signups, and then I checked HN... I'm Scott, feel free to ask me anything about the service.

Looks great!

Supporting ManageSieve is a nice touch. Most sieve services only allow managing sieve through a web UI.

I use Fastmail and like that they contribute to open source mail servers, and do standards work (JMAP).

Does PurelyMail contribute to open source?

Re: Purelymail – cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by fastball »

Felz wrote: post #30

Oh cool, my project is on HackerNews! I was wondering about the sudden uptick in user signups, and then I checked HN... I'm Scott, feel free to ask me anything about the service.

Will sign up in a heartbeat as soon as you have CardDAV / CalDAV support!
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