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Spotify vs the US Competition

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Re: Spotify vs the US Competition

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Out of interest, does Spotify (the free version) for US have the 5 plays limit on each song? Having limited numbers of hours I can deal with, but after they introduced limited plays on Spotify, I practically never used it again after my premium account ran out. The 5 plays doesn't appear to renew at the end of the month like the number of hours, and it just means that my playlists have more and more holes in them (as…

They don't seem to mention it anywhere on the U.S. site. It appears in Europe that they have a 5-plays-per-track limit for free accounts, but not paid accounts.

It's mentioned on their terms and conditions page in the first paragraph: http://www.spotify.com/us/legal/end-user-agreement/

Re: Spotify vs the US Competition

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Can we subtract 1-2 points from Grooveshark for their questionable legal tactics? Awesome comparison, Chris. This should be the go to page used to respond to any question about these services.

Why should Grooveshark be penalized for trying to build a company under the law and license content in the process? Do you think that you just create a startup one day and walk into a huge label the next? It does not work that way in this business. To address some of your inaccuracies (are you making this stuff up?):

- Universal is suing specifically for a few bands not covered under the DMCA. We actually do a better job of filtering those bands than Youtube. Source: http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/uploads/fb/32/fb32701d5d705b...

- Licensing for a single artist can be owned by multiple labels for different albums. This licensing also varies based on country as well. To say we can simply check for an artist name in an upload isn't true when you are talking about the breadth of possible content. Plus, if we filter uploaded content inaccurately we could be liable from both sides of the coin (those wanting the content on, and those not wanting it on).

- Grooveshark has licensed EMI's content since Oct 2009. Merlin was licensed on Aug 2010. We are actively trying to get more licensing deals setup. (Also, some past deals have involved paying licensing for past streams as well.)

- The DMCA's safe harbor clause was enacted to help encourage technological innovation. Uploads to Grooveshark are similar to uploads to youtube. If you feel otherwise you are gravely mistaken. Creating and sharing music as an artist should be simple and we believe indie artists are as important as signed artists - in fact, we're trying to work with indie artists to make them money and get them tour gigs.

Re: Spotify vs the US Competition

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After two days with a free account, on a Mac, I noticed this: - If you mute your speakers via OS X while an advertisement is playing, it pauses the ad until you unmute your speakers. - If you turn down your speaker volume via OS X too much while an advertisement is playing, the same behavior occurs until you turn the volume back up. This appears to be relative to the volume you were just listening to music at. Quick…

When I was using the free version a while back you could mute and then hit play again if you didn't want to listen to the ads. Don't know if that still works.

Re: Spotify vs the US Competition

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does anybody know what these apps, such as spotify, are written in, and any hints on resources used? itunes is good at not spiking CPU usage, which means listening to music while running servers, doing dev work etc. is possible, while some fat clients (especially thinking of Adobe AIR here) are just terrible

Re: Spotify vs the US Competition

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does anybody know what these apps, such as spotify, are written in, and any hints on resources used? itunes is good at not spiking CPU usage, which means listening to music while running servers, doing dev work etc. is possible, while some fat clients (especially thinking of Adobe AIR here) are just terrible

Rdio's desktop app used to be adobe air. Now it's something else, probably native. Spotify is C++. Most of the others are just browser sites. Grooveshark is now mostly HTML5 with the music playback component in flash.

Re: Spotify vs the US Competition

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post #70

Spotify's discovery is better than a 4. Since a playlist can be represented by a URL, sites have emerged to share playlists, which is actually awesome, one of those living in the future moments. Even better, these can be dynamic, like a top 40 list, and also curated by everyone. That said, Spotify could certainly do much more in this area (a lot of their energies have been focused on getting the US launch, it seems).

I use and like Grooveshark but it's radio recommendations are pretty bad and people who have used both say Spotify's is better. I would take these scores with a grain of salt. As much as I like Grooveshark I wouldn't give it a 9 overall.

Grooveshark's radio is not the best, but it's probably better than Spotify's Radio, especially in terms of customizability.

Re: Spotify vs the US Competition

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post #74

does anybody know what these apps, such as spotify, are written in, and any hints on resources used? itunes is good at not spiking CPU usage, which means listening to music while running servers, doing dev work etc. is possible, while some fat clients (especially thinking of Adobe AIR here) are just terrible

Rdio's desktop app used to be adobe air. Now it's something else, probably native. Spotify is C++. Most of the others are just browser sites. Grooveshark is now mostly HTML5 with the music playback component in flash.

Rdio is some native UI, a lot of HTML, and a copy of the Flash runtime (I installed it just last night, and was curious about why it was so large).

Re: Spotify vs the US Competition

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post #74

does anybody know what these apps, such as spotify, are written in, and any hints on resources used? itunes is good at not spiking CPU usage, which means listening to music while running servers, doing dev work etc. is possible, while some fat clients (especially thinking of Adobe AIR here) are just terrible

Anecdotal: Spotify on the Mac doesn't seem like a resource hog at all. Never had it spike the CPU as far as I can see... Running it on a MacBook Air on which I normally have a few Linux VMs open...

Re: Spotify vs the US Competition

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are a radio service. This is a review of on-demand services where you can access songs whenever you want and build your own playlists.

Their premium service is on-demand. https://store.slacker.com/store/Subscriptions.do

Ok thanks for the tip. I'll try to review their premium service too.

Re: Spotify vs the US Competition

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post #28

Spotify "discover" 7/10 IMO, I find new music everyday via Spotify + Facebook integration. Though discovery should not get high ratings in 2011 as there are so much that could be done using social and Music-DNA to discover music - so giving any of these services more than 8 is just a joke.

If you only use Spotify and whatever it provides to discover music then you will discover music from what Spotify provides. The rating is relative to what the other services provide, and a service like MOG provides a superior discovery experience.

0/10 means you cannot discover any music, which is almost impossible to achieve. 4/10 means yes it's possible to discover music but the features are not very optimized for it or they dont perform as well as other services.

Discovery isn't weighted very heavily in the overall rating since there are plenty of other places to discover music from.

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